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Sansui said:
Sqrl said:

He wants a draft? Link? He refused to apologize for calling someone a gook? Link? He "made it clear" he wants a war with Iran? Link?  He sold out to the religious right?  Examples? Links?  He is in 100% agreement with Bush on every issue? Link?

You've posted a mountain of FUD and backed up none of it.

Gook comment: Contrary to McCain's attempt to narrowly define "gook" to mean only his "sadistic" captors, this term has historically been used to describe all Asians. McCain said that "gook" was the most "polite" term he could find to describe his captors, but because it is simply a pejorative term for Asians, he insulted his captors simply by calling them "Asians" -- a clearly disturbing message.

Iran War: I've watched videos of John McCain in numerous town hall meetings.  He has spoken many times of the "grave threat" of Iran.  He has spoken multiple times of the fact that there will be more wars.  He is either campaigning on fear, or he is ready to go to war with Iran.  Pick your choice, cause you gotta pick one, and both are despicable. It is my belief, founded by John McCain's attitude and wording during these town hall meetings, that he wants a war with Iran.  I am entitled to that belief and feel I have backed up my reasoning.

He sold out to the religious right.  John McCain has NEVER been known for his religious convictions, and has NEVER been a staunch pro-life defender...... until 2008 and his shot at winning the presidency.  He has a record of supporting stem cell research, and it's obvious to me that his new conviction for being pro life is pandering to the religious right. 

On his 100% agreement with Bush.  McCain's support of Bush HAS increased over last 4 years.  Check his voting record:
2005 - 77% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2006 - 89% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2007 - 95% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2008 - 100% votes on bills in agreement with Bush

Regarding the Draft:

In June, McCain said it would take an “all-out World War III” to make the draft necessary — which seems to mean he’d consider it. In July 2006, when asked to react to Newt Gingrich’s claim that “You’d have to say to yourself this is in fact World War III,” McCain said, “I do [agree] to some extent.”

Asked about the draft last September, McCain said, “I might consider it, I don’t think it’s necessary, but I might consider it if you could design a draft where everybody equally could serve.”

Considering McCain’s vow that “there’s gonna be other wars” and that we could stay in Iraq for 100 years, a draft might seem reasonable to him.

 

Where are the links? This is all from your mouth, with your bias and your spin put on it. Since I doubt you will provide links:

The Gook comment: You even said it yourself. It was in reference to his captors(ie the people who tortured him). I certainly wouldn't be referring to them as "My Friends"  

By your own admission McCain has only used the term in reference to his captors, just because the word refers to asians in general doesn't mean he was calling all asians gooks, it just means he was calling his captor's gooks.

The only way he had to get back at them was through words, he has many times said his defiance was what gave him the morale to survive.  You can fault him for that if you want, but the overwhelming majority of people won't.

Your Comment: "he now refers to asians as "gooks"

Saying that he uses the term to describe all Asians is another outright lie.  He has only used the term to describe the people who tortured him.

Iran War:  Sorry to dissapoint but McCain has said on multiple occassions that military force is the last option.  

Your Comment: "he makes it damn clear that he would have no hesitation in going to war against Iran."

This idea that he actually wants a war with Iran is beyond liberal spin, it's an outright fabrication (ie a lie).

Selling Out: People can look at his voting record, for themselves and see that he has voted pro-life for a long time (back to 1995).  We can debate all day whether or not his positions are pandering to this group or that, but he has a record of being pro-life..and that is a fact. 

Your Comment: "has NEVER been a staunch pro-life defender"

Another lie down.

Agreement with Bush:  Anyone can type up a list of percentages and put a year next to it.  But can you site a source?  I'm guessing you can't since I quite clearly asked you to do that and you avoided it instead substituting your own opinion without a link. For example:

2005 - 77% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2006 - 69% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2007 - 55% votes on bills in agreement with Bush
2008 - 30% votes on bills in agreement with Bush

See what I did there? Anyone can make this stuff up, site your source if you want to make these claims.

Your comment: "In the last 4 years, McCain's support for Bush's initiatives and administration has risen steadily to 100% in 2008"

Undetermined, can you muster the lnks for this one? I'm certainly not going to do a point by point comparison just to prove you wrong, so I'll let you prove yourself right or just let the rest of your record stand for itself.

Draft: The man says it would take "all-out World War III” to make the draft necessary" (which I would like to see a source for this comment as well) and just because he says he "agrees to some extent" (again source?)  that its like WWIII you think its ok to haul off and say the man wants to instate the draft?  Do you not see how intellectually dishonest this is? This isn't a thinly veiled hint at a draft..its a statement of fact.  If we find ourselves in WWIII we will need to reinstate the draft.

Your Comment: "McCain has even made veiled reference to his support for reinstatement of the draft"

At no point did he even elude to any desire to do so.  Again a lie.

 

I don't expect you to do anything but spin this even more than you already have.  Antiprocess does that to people..maybe you should look it up.

 

 

 



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