Another George Bush for US?

[Tigawoods]

konnichiwa said:

megaman79 said:

Timmah! said:

megaman79 said:

Tigawoods said:

Lots of things wrong with this thread.

1. Are we surprised that a left wing news channel wrote a smear piece with no factual evidence?

2. Obama is closer to Bush. McCain is closer to Hillary. Bill Clinton is closer to Heffner :P

3. @Megaman Which million ppl are you talking about? Whether or not you agree with the wars and the WMD fiasco the Taliban and Hussein still committed genocide. Or are you pulling these one million ppl out of your ass?

 

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

Its not difficult. If you bothered to question what people tell you maybe you will learn something.

But there are two problems with going into Iraq that the UN did not agree with, prior to the lies from Powell.

1. You do not enter another country unless there is an imminent threat to neighbouring states. This was not the case

2. The other reason, demonstrated in the first Gulf war, was that internal security was threatened. Human rights was the reason. But there was no evidence that Saddam was going to kill or hurt his own people.

Megaman79, are you joking, or can you not read numbers??? The site that YOU just linked to puts the total at 86,661 - 94,557 civilian deaths, and many of those are most likely killed by terrorists or insurgents. You're only about 910,000 off, where are the rest of the 'Million' you stated??

 

Your right.

http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78

see here or here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict_in_Iraq_since_2003

 

 

More than a million wow....  Now I am getting to understand why so many are saying the war in Vietnam is like in Iraq.

 

Now see Megaman these attacks on civilians do not stem specifically from the US or rather Bush. This is pointed out in your statistics. To say he is responsible despite congress voting and a coalition of the UN is very narrow minded to the point of lunacy.  As far as numbers go the reports are unreliable at best as figures are bounced around by everyone. As far as human rights you might want to take a look again. Essentially the Kurds say HI! Do you think he is going to flaunt the fact he is killing his own ppl? Are you really that naive? Human rights is what he needed to be tried for in the first place. No one had the balls to go in and bring him to justice. NATO is spineless and no one wants to do anything without the US holding their hand.

Link to Hussein's trial http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/20/221613.shtml?s=lh