Another George Bush for US?

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luinil said:

Sansui said:

luinil said:

Sansui said:

luinil said:

PS360ForTheWin said:
from what i know of there policies, Obama would be far better than Bush or Mccain

In what ways would you think he would be far better? Can you name what makes his policies better? I want to know why you think that.

 

What I would like is for those who want to vote for McCain to tell me what they think makes McCain or his policies better.  Can you tell me why you think John McCain would make a better president?

Sure, McCain isn't a Communist/Socialist. McCain didn't vote to support infanticide. McCain has more knowledge of the works of the world's politics. He understands Russia better. He will cut my taxes which will allow me to spend more and give more to charity. He will appoint Originalist Justices to the Supreme court (at least I hope). He is not friends with Bill Ayers.

1)K.  I can tear your argument apart in a matter of seconds.

2)John McCain supports public school systems.  That means he's a socialist by your logic.   John McCain voted in favor of embyronic stem cell research, which shows his earlier tacit approval of women's choice before he began pandering to the religious right by claiming he's pro-life.   Unless you make a shit-ton of money, like million plus a year, Obama's economic plan will likely give you the bigger tax cut if you are middle class.

3)I'm not sure you think the definition of an originalist judge is what you think it means.  And if you want to talk about a champion of the constitution, that man is Obama.  The man taught constitutional law.

4)As far as the Bill Ayers thing.. ok... Obama links McCain to Abramoff, McCain links Obama to Ayers.  The whole thing is retarded, and shouldn't be an issue against either one of them unless you are just desperately reaching for ANYTHING to not vote for the other. 

5)By the way... did you know that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, and various other founders of our great nation were Marijuana smokers?  Just a fun tidbit.

 

1)You tried and failed.

2a)Public schools are awful, but they aren't part of this debate. I don't have a choice in this issue this time. The biggest power I have on this issue is not with the President anyways, but rather with my Congressman. He might have been for embryonic stem cell research, but a person can change their mind on things and become enlightened. Early term abortion, while still horrid, is not infanticide.

2b)Obama will force the economy into a stand still with his tax policies. No new jobs will be created if the people with the money are not making any money on their investments (read: businesses). Taxes on corporations will go up and likely payroll taxes, THAT IS A TAX ON ME! Taxes on businesses are a misleading proposition. They will simply pass those taxes on to one of two groups, the employees/stock holders through lower wages/returns, or the customer through higher prices. These two things effect me directly as I work.

3)Obama would likely appoint judges in the vein of Ginsberg. Those types of judges are on the attack against the foundation of America. I didn't know he was a teacher! Link?

4)It just goes to show that he has no common sense in who he chooses to be friends with. His judgment is in question and it fails at so many levels.

5)What does this have to do with anything? Do you call Neal Boortz and Savage about that giving plant?

 

2a.) Whoa whoah whoah.  No no, stop.  Stop right there.  You can't call Obama a socialist/communist without calling McCain a socialist.  Support for any kind of public education of other public works is totally socialist.  We do not live in a purely capitalistic society, and with good reason.  I'm against communism as much as the next guy, but do not be so blind as to pretend we do not borrow the few things that do work with socialist societies.   So either stop calling Obama a socialist or start calling McCain one.  There's no way around this.

2b.) You know, the last time we had anything close to a fiscally responsible government was Bill Clinton's administration. A tax and spend democrat!  No president has the power to put our economy in a standstill unless they're pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into a foreign war.  I made that point before. Not even GW Bush could have stalled our economy if not for the war.

3.) You think Obama would appoint judges that would attack the foundation of america, I think Obama would appoint judges that would preserve our foundation.  And at the University of Chicago, Obama was not a tenured professor or anything, but an adjunct and senior lecturer. 

4.) And again, by your logic, it would go to show that McCain has no sense with who he associates with.  The argument is lame against either one.

5.) I was just throwing it out there for funsies.  You have no idea how many conservative tightwads will work themselves up to the point of physical violence when you tell them something like that, which goes against their indoctrination and revisionist histories.