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my brothers in gaming plss plss understand that coming off the sucess of the ps1 and the ps2 it is garuanteed that even with the slow start sony had with the ps3 that it will,WILL OVERTAKE THE 360 installed base,but it urkkks me to see many sonyfanboys on here acting like the ps3 is doing anything spectacular in outselling the 360.the thing to look at is not that 360 had a lead on the ps3 but that it the 360 has stolen away MARKET FROM SONY OK,and in which case it makes the 360 a winner plss study it carefully,so even if only half of the userbase of the ps2 buy ps3 it is a given sony will at the end of the generation b in the lead ahead of 360,but what of the other former sony ps2 onwers who would have brought 360 or wii?sony no matter how u put it has lost valuable marketshare,just an observation that all can see clearly if only they wipe away the bias.