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Onimusha12 said:
Dno said:
Onimusha12 said:

The game is considered by most fans of the series to be the weakest instalment to date and reviews have been fairly mixed. Despite heavy advertising for the game and a shipment order of 2m units, the game has performed modestly and if its legs don't hold up it could easily be just another casualty of the HD movement.

In the end the biggest selling point of this game everyone agrees is the Star Wars tie in, outside of that it would have been lucky to see the sales of Virtua Fighter 5.

Maybe Bandai Namco should consider making a Soul Callibur FPS if they want to compete realistically on the HD consoles

 

 Games that arent FPS that sold million(s) on HD consoles

1. Gran Turismo 5 Pro

First Party game, and okay, I change my previous statement, maybe they should make Sould Calibur an FPS or Luxury Car Racer, lol.

Still sold over 2 million and its not a FPS? your running out of genres to add to the "HD only sells" list

2. Heavenly Sword

First Party game, and even then unless it has broken the 1,300,000 mark in sales its safe to assume its not made its money back yet, and even if it were to, it would be a very slim margin of profit.

It still sold over 1 million and it came out of the slowest and lowest userbase this gen. Sony said themselves that a title needs to sell a million make a PROFIT. ill trust sony before i trust you

3. Devil May Cry

The game barely sold as much as its previous iterations and for all the advertising and development put into the title, its sales are still somewhat dissapointing.

But it out sold a previous title that was on the ps2 and the ps2 had what 100 million consoles sold? Going be you logic nintendo is COMPLETE fail because mario did not sell 15 million copies like mario 3 did. Fail 

4. Assassins Creed

Yes, because that's the kind of game you want to use as a testament to the quality taste of HD gaming. I guess competing realistically means making Prince of Persia clones.

Actually if you would stop putting your foot in you mouth and play it you would no that its more like a GTA clone then the prince. And guess what? it sold over 3 million. Fail

5. Mass effect

Since EA is $95 million dollars in debt as of the first quarter I think its safe to assume we can discount any of their games as competing realistically in any market.

But EA is the number 1 3rd party? and their number 1 game is madden and it didnt come out yet.... Care to make a bet on EAs profits next quater?

6. Motorstorm

Again, first party support, and bundled in some regions. Nice try.

What does 1st party have to do with everything? i dont under stand because its 1st party then it doesnt count? and motorstorm was at 1 million BEFORE it was bundled. Nice try. Fail

7. Guitar hero

Which sells far better on the PS2 and Wii than either of the HD consoles.

OMG CALL THE COPS!!! A GAME SOLD MORE ON A 120 MILLION USERBASE AND THE NUMBER ONE NEXT GEN SYSTEM OMG!!!!!! fAIL

8. Forza

Again, First Party support, and a racer, so we have FPSs and Racers, congrats.

Again 1st party games dont count? then you "non-HD wii" is in trouble because as i recall all Wii games that are selling are from nintendo. Fail

9. Uncharted

A First party game and one that's only barely broken the 1,300,000 barrier of making its money back. There is some realism for you.

You cant even give me realism because you dont under stand that games on HD consoles sell. since when is 1 million sells bad?

10. madden 06, 07,08

Since EA is $95 million dollars in debt as of the first quarter I think its safe to assume we can discount any of their games as competing realistically in any market.

But madden sells better on 360 the wii? Hmmmm i guess we can safely assume that they are wasting their money on non HD systems them?

11.All Fifa's

Since EA is $95 million dollars in debt as of the first quarter I think its safe to assume we can discount any of their games as competing realistically in any market.

Hmmm how many million has fifa sold on 360... then how many on wii? FAIL

12. MGS4

Yeah, it only took 70 million dollars, four years of development, being hyped more than any game ever in existence, BUNDLED WITH THE DAMN CONSOLE AT A BARGAIN DEAL to sell as well as it has. I sure hope all developers can afford to put this much money and effort into one game per generation to compete realistically on the HD consoles.

 over 2 MILLION in sales in 1-2 months.... and wii sports was bundle from the start. and wii play.. etc so lets not count those and lets see how much nintendo games sell.

13. GTA4

Yeah, it only took 100 million dollars and years of development to make a game that could hope to muscle its money back.

hahahahha that games sold over 5 million only a FOOL would think it didnt make its money back.... LMAO FAIL

14. Pro Evolution

Again, sports games, congrats, you've definitly reached for the higher ground here, these still sell better on the PS2 consoles. I'm sure Soccer Games are why you choose HD gaming.

OMG A GAMES SELL MORE ON A SYSTEM WITH A HIGHER USERBASE OMG!!!!!!! there are a lot of people ("others") that bought HD gaming for sports.

15. Ratchet & Clank

First Party support. The Game that is just beneath the barrier of 1,300,000 units that is typically assumed to be the mark by which a game breaks even with development costs. Even if it has the profit, the margin must be pretty damn bleak.

they make a game every year and make money.. thats why they are one of the TOP devs. this game made a profit not break even. POINT IS HD GAMES SELL!!!!!!

16. Elder Scrolls (well u can play in FP mode but its not a FPS)

All hail PC ports. What are you going to try and use the Orange Box and Unreal Tournament III as examples now?

as long as they sell i will use them. you are soooo gonna say "HD consoles cant sell anythin besides all sports, racing, fighting, adventure, 1st party, and 3rd party games" you are running out of excuses.

17. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance

The Game was Bundled and is multiplatform

at 1 million BEFORE being bundled on 360.

18. Saints Row

At least it broke even with development costs. Still not much in the ways of profit.

and i can safely assume that you kno they didnt break even... but yet they are making a sequal..... and it has a huge budget? hmmmmmm

19. Fight Night Round 3

Since EA is $95 million dollars in debt as of the first quarter I think its safe to assume we can discount any of their games as competing realistically in any market.

but again it sold 1 million... how many boxing games on the wii sold 1 million?

20. Dead Rising

Because that didn't just barely make its money back.

but it did make its money back. as i recall capcoms statemants show a PROFIT!!! FAIL

21. Rock band

Really, because its not selling nearly as well as Guitar Hero is.

but its at oveer a million on HD consoles. You making stupid points. Thats like saying all your Non HD games are no where near halo 3 (and most arent) FAil

22. Crack down

First Party Game and still only barely made its money back.

i would love to see how you know this. Because last i recall this game sold 700k in a month. thats really making its money back if i ever heard of it.

23. PGR3

Whatever that is

Its a racing game that has a huge fanbase. and its over a million BTW.

24. Both Need For Speeds

Since EA is $95 million dollars in debt as of the first quarter I think its safe to assume we can discount any of their games as competing realistically in any market. And oh boy, another racing game.

/sigh

25. Viva Pinata

First Party support and fairly unremarkable sales, way to be.

unremarkable? 1 million? really? damn

26. WWE smackdown

Another game that sold the best on the PS2.

OMG A GAME SOLD MORE ON A SYSTEM WITH MORE USERS OMG CALL THE FREAKING COP!!!!!!!!! 1 million on 360 you fail!

27. Splinter Cell

An FPS, I thought you were avoiding those.

Noob LOL FAIL!!!!!!!! (in case you didnt get it its not a FPS.. think MGS4)

28. Kane & Lynch

Because that's a game you want to use as a bench mark.

Hmmm wii fit or a nice co op game to play with a friend? hmmmm

29. DEAD OR ALIVE (and this one is a fighting game)

You mean the games that are selling less and less with each iteration of the series?

you can say the same for metriod, mario, zelda, mario kart, list goes on. launch game ONE MILLION!!!!

Im not even gonna talk about up and coming games that will (and i quote) "compete realistically on the HD consoles"

Fail


So basically we have by and large sports games, racing games and shooting games. And pay no mind to the games in the list that are bundled with consoles, first party titles or haven't or just have barely made their money back. And no matter how good any of them do they're still making less money back than previous generations.

If these games really were competing realistically, then why are most of their publishers barely keeping their heads above water financially? I think we can assume any game published by EA isn't competeing realistically in the market, lol.

 My answers are in blue

 HD cost more to make we understand that thats why the profits are down but the end product are MUCH better. and as i recall EA is doing fine and so are MOST devs. Your info is wrong and you fail again!

nice try but if you dont no what Splinter cell is why are you here?

FAIL FAIL FAIL!

LOL @ YOU