| appolose said: So, in effect, you're saying that there wasn't any measurable time (or that it was infinitely fast) due to the lack of matter, yes? In that event, I think another discussion would follow (started by me) on how the universe could show up in any consistent sense (in the definition of time). Also, I would consider the study of time (otherwise, your word (which, again, I do not take lightly)) to be far too unfounded to be used in a science debate. But in that event, I think my own redundancy and confusion would be going nowhere, so we may just have to leave this point at this stage.
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Hmm, I was just going through the possibilities as I understand them, it wasn't really intended to be taken as statement of fact so much as a listing of possible scenarios. I was trying to show that in a large number(all?) of possible creation scenarios there still exists a possibility for the natural creation of the universe.
I absolutely agree that our understanding of this topic as a civilization isn't far enough along to draw any solid conclusions on the matter. If I felt we could draw firm conclusions I probably wouldn't be arguing this from an agnostic viewpoint to be honest, I see this issue as fundamental to the question.
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