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meowmints on 23 July 2007
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Bodhesatva said:
Xiru said:
LeroyBrown said:
Soriku said:
Hey, I care about Japan sales most of all. Why? 'Cause if PS3 is sucking in Japan (which is what's happening now) and Wii does good in Japan (now happening) then probably more Jap dev support (S-E, Namo, etc.)


I whole heartedly concur with this. Obviously it is personal opinion, but I really only care about Japanese developers and their franchises, to each their own but in my experiences Western developed games by and large only really seem to appeal to current trends/genres in gaming lacking any real staying power outside of niche groups in the long run.


I too would normally be worried but since the Wii doesn't have the technology to express game developers true imagination and creative talent, I wouldn't worry as much. As long as the PS3 does respectable across the world, Japanese developers will still make the big games for it. Look at Square Enix. If Nintendo had made the Wii even just a little less powerful than the 360, then Nintendo would own the whole world and there would be no 3rd party games for PS3/360. So as it stands now, Wii can sell all it wants but the technology used inside the console really does hurt any future prospects oh huge amazing games like FF13. I'm sure Square could bring FF14 to Wii, but why gives us a taste of heaven only to send us back to earth?


Interesting argument, Xiru. Can you please explain why platforms like the 3D0, CD-i, Neo Geo, and most important of all, the PC did not (or do not) see strong third party support despite the fact they were (or are) technological leaps and bounds ahead of their competition at the time?

If "fulfilling true imagination" is of such importance (if we can even agree that this argument has validity in the first place, which I'm not sure we can), why don't these developers abandon the inferior PS3 technology for high end PCs?


It's all relative. Developers will always want higher power unless the install base isn't there.  Kojima even wanted to develop for PCs but the install base jus simply isn't there.  Sony gambled on the bluray but it's apparent the $500 thing isn't working very well at the moment.

 

But interestingly you mentioned a few 600+ systems, some which share commonalities with the PS3 

1. PCs will never go that far, too messy to setup, too prone to errors, too many configurations. I am a computer engineer and I still don't like dealing with all those blue screens.

2. Neo Geo, 200 dollar games and no attempt to make this mass market.

3. CD-i failed in that it was trying to be a 700 dollar Wii. All their edutainment, music games wasn't worth this price.

4. 3D0 is the closest parallel to the PS3. Even claiming they were more than a game machine. The only difference is their first party sucked, so a bunch of mediocre ports and crappy FMV games made it unappealing. 3D0 couldn't afford next-gen losses.  Sony at least benefit from Bluray licensing, selling HDTVs on this next-gen battle.

 

In the end, for a lot of people PS3's vast tech advantage isn't compelling enough when demonstrated.  It makes me sad that there's so much glee from people in seeing the PS3 fail. I thought we could make a big step up this gen, like moving from SNES to PS1. But it's apparent this generation is costing way too much. Nintendo took the smart route to let Sony and MS bleed money on this painful transition while they sit on last-gen technology and bank off of their huge franchises, most of which do not rely on hi-def visuals to sell their appeal.

But for me, for the games I want: JRPGs with next-gen graphics, it looks increasingly grim.  Tales won't be making a PS3 stop anytimes soon. Signups on the PS3 is slim, and only MS deep pockets can keep Japanese studios producing gorgeous JRPGs at a significant loss.  I'll enjoy WKS though knowing full well it may be the last for a long while.  I don't see why you all enjoy seeing PS3 fans squirm though. Sure some are rude, but I never wish for anything except for everyone to enjoy their games as much as possible. So spare some compassion at some of us who will have less and less in the future.