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Menago KF said:
It's hard to debate on such things. If you think about it, the games that are coming out now, they're ok or even good graphic-wise. But we are hardcore gamers. We strive and dream of the moment when we'll finally get photo-realistic gfx on our pc's and consoles. Casuals don't really see a difference between NMH gfx and GTA4.

My brother very much disliked the latter while praising NMH at the same time. When asked why he said:
" GTA4 takes itself too seriously. The former games GTA3-2-1 have never been made for graphics and the game was cheerfully fun. Now GTA4 is trying to be a serious game. And it loses a lot in my eyes because of that".

My brother plays game once every 1-2 years :P. Anyway, this kind of shows the way of thinking. Casuals see games as that: games, from definition a utility that is supposed to entertain. And for some, real-life gfx as seen on HD consoles are a setback rather than upgrade.

Games are entertaiment; ultitly for when there is nothig better to do, which for me is most of the time. I like the Wii, but got a 360 for its games. How do you see gaming, if not as a vechile for entertainment?