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Rath said:
NJ5 said:
Rath said:

I would say Hitler was worse than Stalin simply through his cold killing machine designed to wipe out an entire race - Stalin simply didn't give a fuck about his people and let them starve to death. Either way, both were dicks.

This situation could turn out really bad, if it's true that Ukraine is fighting alongside Georgia then this has the potential to boil over big time. Aren't both Georgia and Ukraine being courted for NATO membership?

 

I don't think anyone said they're fighting alongside each other... Russia just said Ukraine supplied them with weapons and moral support for going into Ossetia. Yes, both of them were supposed to enter NATO at some point, mainly because the USA wanted that to happen.

If Russia does something to Ukraine, it's game over... I don't think they will though.

PS: From what I read, that famine caused by Stalin was not simply an accident ;)

 

No but it wasn't on the same level of official killings that the Germans had. Stalin did what he did for power, Hitler did what he did because he was a right evil racist sod.

 

I disagree. I believe Hitler did what he did for political reasons and to gain power as well... and eventually he as all dictators did bought into his own lies and his own "greatness". Which was the same thing that happened to Stalin. Besides which, after blaming the jews for all of Germany's problems keeping them around really would hurt him politcally. They were just as politically motivated as the russian killings i'd guess honestly.

The offical killings were on the same level i'd say. They are just well less documented because we never invaded russia. Aside from which, the Gulags killed way more people then the German death camps mostly for ridiculious reasons... like accidently spilling something on a picture of stalin in a newspaper.

The Gulag and deathcamp things were well past keeping power.

In some cases they just rounded up every man in a village and would send them off to a labor camp. That's well beyond the scope of keeping power.

Hell they had quotas of people to send to their deaths.  To say he isn't as bad just because he decided to kill more then just one racial group seems wrong. (Though some were specifically targeted.)