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HappySqurriel on 23 July 2007
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grandmaster192 said:
The PS3 doesn't need to be saved; same with the Gamcube. The Gamecube made Nintendo a shit load of money with the games you've listed being some of the main reasons. You seem the be bashing the Gamecube simply because it didn't do the the impossible. There was no way for the gamecube to sell 120m or more and beat out the PS2. Why should it even be considered a failure or not based on what other companies do? Thats bullshit, and a poor way to judge a console. As long as the console made money and lasted a resonable amount of time, it should be considered a success. Sony claims to have been making a profit on the PS3 before the price drops, so I would assume that production costs are going down rapidly. With a long life spand, the PS3 should be able to make Sony a ton of money as well. I really, really don't see why these consles need saving. Also, why is it that people think that the Gamecube just got trashed and finished waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in last place? It's pretty much tied with the Xbox for 2nd with Dreacast being the console thats 3rd.

The reason that Nintendo was so Profitable durring the Gamecube generation can be easily explained:


Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire Nintendo 5.37 5.65 4.13 15.15
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green Nintendo 3.09 4.23 2.81 10.13
Pokemon Emerald Nintendo 2.02 2.56 1.72 6.30
Mario Kart: Super Circuit Nintendo 1.00 2.66 1.79 5.45
Super Mario Advance Nintendo 0.92 3.10 1.30 5.32
Super Mario Advance 2 Nintendo 0.96 3.16 1.16 5.28
Super Mario Advance 4 Nintendo 0.84 2.88 1.31 5.03
Super Mario Advance 3 Nintendo 0.63 1.72 0.47 2.82
The Legend of Zelda: Link To The Past Nintendo 0.34 1.67 0.57 2.58
Famicom Mini 01 Super Mario Bros Nintendo 1.39 0.63 0.23 2.25
Warioland 4 Nintendo 0.54 0.83 0.80 2.17
Kirby Star: Fountain of Dream Nintendo 0.91 1.12 0.11 2.14
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Nintendo 0.47 1.46 0.19 2.12
Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Team Nintendo 0.76 0.73 0.57 2.06
Donkey Kong Country Nintendo 0.21 1.11 0.52 1.84
Golden Sun Nintendo 0.40 0.86 0.41 1.67
Metroid Fusion Nintendo 0.18 1.08 0.29 1.55
Kirby Star: Great Labyrinth of The Mirror Nintendo 0.77 0.69 0.06 1.52
Pokemon Pinball: Ruby Sapphire Nintendo 0.37 0.62 0.42 1.41
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap Nintendo 0.27 0.83 0.24 1.34
Golden Sun: Lost Age Nintendo 0.30 0.59 0.29 1.18
Donkey Kong Country 2 Nintendo 0.12 0.71 0.30 1.13
Wario Ware Nintendo 0.70 0.28 0.12 1.10
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity Nintendo 0.46 0.40 0.18 1.04
Totals (24 matches) 23.0 39.6 20.0 82.6

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Mario Kart: Double Dash Nintendo 0.89 3.85 1.86 6.60
Super Smash Bros Melee Nintendo 1.44 4.06 1.08 6.58
Super Mario Sunshine Nintendo 0.87 3.73 1.31 5.91
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Nintendo 0.89 2.44 1.05 4.38
Luigi Mansion Nintendo 0.46 2.21 0.72 3.39
Metroid Prime Nintendo 0.12 1.92 0.73 2.77
Pokemon Collosseum Nintendo 0.71 1.17 0.62 2.50
Animal Crossing Nintendo 0.66 1.68 0.15 2.49
Mario Party 4 Nintendo 0.92 1.13 0.39 2.44
Mario Party 5 Nintendo 0.73 0.96 0.36 2.05
Paper Mario 2 Nintendo 0.46 1.23 0.26 1.95
Starfox Adventures Nintendo 0.32 0.95 0.58 1.85
Pikmin Nintendo 0.56 0.78 0.27 1.61
Mario Party 6 Nintendo 0.60 0.85 0.11 1.56
Kirbys Air Ride Nintendo 0.45 0.96 0.12 1.53
Mario Party 7 Nintendo 0.47 0.87 0.11 1.45
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour Nintendo 0.25 1.03 0.15 1.43
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Nintendo 0.07 0.80 0.37 1.24
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 0.04 0.85 0.28 1.17
Pokemon XD Nintendo 0.35 0.58 0.21 1.14
Mario Power Tennis Nintendo 0.46 0.52 0.15 1.13
Super Mario Strikers Nintendo 0.21 0.43 0.42 1.06
Donkey Konga Nintendo 0.46 0.43 0.17 1.06
Pikmin 2 Nintendo 0.56 0.35 0.14 1.05
Totals (24 matches) 13.0 33.8 11.6 58.3

 

48 Million selling games with a total of over 140 Million copies sold; and this doesn't include the hundreds of profitable Nintendo titles that sold less than 1 Million copies.

Compare that with Sony on the PS2:


Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec Sony 1.89 7.11 5.84 14.84
Gran Turismo 4 Sony 1.10 2.49 4.52 8.11
Eye Toy: Play Sony 0.20 0.82 2.84 3.86
SOCOM Sony 0.06 2.64 0.74 3.44
The Getaway Sony 0.05 1.15 2.17 3.37
Jak and Daxter Sony 0.15 2.01 1.05 3.21
Ratchet and Clank Sony 0.58 1.36 0.94 2.88
SOCOM II Sony 0.06 2.14 0.45 2.65
Everybodys Golf 3 Sony 1.39 0.94 0.29 2.62
God of War Sony 0.02 1.93 0.53 2.48
Ratchet and Clank 2 Sony 0.26 1.35 0.81 2.42
Jak II Sony 0.00 1.59 0.71 2.30
ATV Off Road Fury Sony 0.00 1.99 0.19 2.18
Ratchet and Clank 3 Sony 0.31 1.14 0.72 2.17
ATV Off Road Fury 2 Sony 0.00 1.77 0.14 1.91
Everybodys Golf 4 Sony 1.34 0.28 0.12 1.74
The Getaway: Black Monday Sony 0.02 0.41 1.24 1.67
Jak III Sony 0.00 1.11 0.46 1.57
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo Sony 0.43 0.00 1.13 1.56
SOCOM II Sony 0.04 1.21 0.30 1.55
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue Sony 0.79 0.00 0.57 1.36
Twisted Metal Black Sony 0.00 1.12 0.13 1.25
God of War II Sony 0.00 1.08 0.00 1.08
Sly Cooper and Thevious Sony 0.00 0.95 0.11 1.06
God of War 2 Sony 0.00 1.06 0.00 1.06
Totals (25 matches) 8.7 37.7 26.0 72.3

I suspect that if Sony only sold 20 Million consoles they would be in some serious trouble ...