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superchunk said:

1. Existence and life are too complex to be caused solely by a series of randomization and chances. Therefor I believe in a God.

2. If there is a God, it would not be constrained to anything. The ability to create everything must conclude that God is everything and is absolutely without limitations.
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"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in The God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve." Q-002.062

Basically anyone who believes in God, the Day of Judgment, and is a good person will get rewarded by God. The implies that no specific path or organized religion is required. I still consider myself Muslim by definition. "One who submits to the will of God".
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Good post, and yeah it is unlikely to end well. I haven't read the other thread yet so sorry if you already answered that in there (and jsut say so as I will eventually read it):

1. Wouldn't this also apply to any deity? Wouldn't a deity able to create the universe be too complex to spontaneously arise?

2. Wrong, as demonstrated by the old case of "can god create a being more powerful than himself?" If he can't then he is not all powerful due to that inability and if he can then he is not all powerful either as that being that he created has more power than it.

What about those that do good but do not believe in God or the day of judgment like atheists; or believe in God but that there is no day of judgement like deists and from my understanding buddhists (i.e. cyclical view of history instead of a straight path through it and therefore no day of judgment for everybody but maybe one for each when they die and get reincarnated according to their karmic balance)?

Would these non-believer do-gooder qualify?

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Also, to respond to the OP, I am an orthotheist and a moral absolutist, I just don't always know where the absolutes of moral are.



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