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The Ghost of RubangB said:
I think stealing from individuals is evil and stealing from corporations deserves somewhere between a slap on the wrist and a congratulations, depending on which corporation it was.


If you steal some ones and zeroes over the internet from multimedia conglomerates, I don't care.

If you steal a car or a laptop, eat shit and die.

If you steal a $100 pair of Nikes, fuck yes, you're a hero. That money wasn't going to the starving slaves in Indonesia anyway.


Corporations don't have morals or even bodies. Their job is to take as much money from us as possible. Our job is to give them as little money as possible, if any at all. If they're not going to be held to the same standards as individuals are, then they shouldn't get the same moral high ground when they're being robbed blind. Fuck 'em.

Companies are the individuals and individuals the companies.  Corporations for the most part don't have morals but that's largely because our population doesn't have morals.  I mean two threads going on simultaneous where people are arguing that pirating isn't really wrong.  I mean really where do we go from here? 

Basically if businesses don't make money they can't pay their employees.  I'm from around the Toledo, OH area and Dana Corporation just announced today that 3,000 layoffs were occuring.  They haven't been profitable for a while and essentially you can't run a business if you can't pay your employees.  But who pays for their poor performance (or management issues)?  It's the employees.  In this market they are going to have serious trouble getting positions. 

Oh, but yes, all the profits they steal from people for their stockholders?  Enron is a good example of a company completely focused on profits and deserved to go down right?  http://www.usatoday.com/money/energy/2002-02-04-enron-remedies.htm  People lost everthing in Enron.  People that didn't know what was going on and didn't make the decisions.  If you think most management in the country is corrupt, fine.  But typically when you steal from a company (even in piracy) one of three things happens.

1.  A worker loses their raise/gets laid off.

2.  Prices are raised and the consumer pays the difference.

3.  Some retired stockholder has to work a little bit longer to pay for retirement.

The CEO and President will still be drining their European sportscar and getting six figure bonuses.  They make the decisions, they aren't going to take a paycut.