sharky on 13 January 2007
Stromprophet said:
It's obvious to me you are a fanboy not capable of reasoning with or admitting to being wrong.
I will admit I compared those two numbers because every 360 shipped then was sold, so the shipped number closely reflected NPDs numbers. And you could walk in and get one in March. I actually walked in and got one at the end of January (yes I own a 360).
I will also admit I was wrong to say 1 million was more than the total shipped thru end of February, but barely. The NPD number should closely reflect what M$ shipped. Because they sold almost every unit shipped.
Everyone who was looking for a PS3 knows that the week after Christmas, infact the weekend of new years (after the 28th, I don't know where you get this date, but I remember reading a report saying they did not record anything after the day after Christmas). But that weekend was a massive shipment. BB did a relaunch on the 31st, they had upwards of 60 units for each store. Large shipments came in that whole week from the day after Christmas to New years eve.
But be objective, what was the reason M$ couldn't provide enough consoles? They couldn't get their manufacturing turned around, and consoles were overheating a lot, and the red ring o death.
Being a fanboy is stupid. I'd rather have all 3, but I'm not gonna pull in punches in my criticism of them all.
Yeah, and microsoft also launched in three territories, not two. Does that make them better than Sony?
Sony only has to divide it's shipments two ways.
Yet I agree, partly because they only had two territories, Sony was able to replenish much better than Microsoft. They did do a better job at that, as evidenced by going from 200k in Nov to 500k in Dec.
You're still not accounting that shipped is ALWAYS a good deal higher than sold. This applies to ALL CONSOLES.
There is LAG TIME of 4-8 WEEKS that these consoles are shipped. Even if every 360 was snapped up the minute it hit a shelf, there is still many in transit. Conversly, a million PS3's shipped means many have not even reached stores yet.
The reason I know about the 4-8 weeks is because microsoft talked about it in a interview. There are so many stores in the USA, many a long distance from the distribution centers. That's all transit time. And the cost effective way to ship is by boat (from China), which means even more time (Sony was probably airfreighting PS3's though, but it's still 4-8 weeks)
Hell, Sony is the one famous for imflated ship figures. Sony supposedly counts as soon as they leave the assembly line in China as shipped. MS says they dont call it shipped until it leaves the distribution center in Missouri headed to a store (I think it was Missouri).
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