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Another advantage for potential 360 owners is that you get better deals on games...... go compare the prices on amazon for 2nd hand copies of Tony hawks project 8 on 360 and ps3... 360 is much cheaper.... same with Stranglehold and tiger woods games....and with the 360 been out longer you are going to get those great games that 360 got during its extra year on the market , games like dead rising, crackdown and condemned 1 (all very cheap but brilliant)... so those who complain about the £35 a year for xbox live... consider this..... games are up to £5-£10 cheaper 2nd hand on 360... that alone covers the cost of xbox live per year in all seriousness though, welcome to 360 land Godot... if you start to like achievements look me up, we can duke it out or team up..... oh, and xbox arcade games are getting better and better and the selection is now HUGE