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Zucas said:
Domicinator said:
Zucas said:
You didn't read much of what I said. Sounds like you simply found a part of it and flew with it haha. Not put them out of business but take them down a notch. Drop them in market share for probably ultimately buying them out haha. And if not that keeping them from competing with them in other markets. There's a reason MS backed HD-DVD haha.

I'm not saying MS wouldn't like to win the console wars or make profits... but I think that would only be a bonus to their current agendas for this market. Goes along with why they are so focused on the PS3 and why so lenient with the Wii while possibly even trying to make "friends" with Ninty. Go figure.

 

What I'm taking issue with is that you're faulting MS for trying to make money with their console. That IS their current agenda. It's the same as Sony's current agenda and Nintendo's current agenda. They are focused on the PS3 because they know they are not going to beat Nintendo. And Sony is focused on the 360 because they know they're not going to beat Nintendo. Sony is copying Nintendo and MS and MS is copying Sony and Nintendo.

Of COURSE they want to take their competition down a notch. That's what EVERY company wants to do. That's how business WORKS!! And I guarantee you that MS has no illusions that they'll eventually buy out Sony. And MS backed HD DVD because BluRay was an unproven, Sony-owned technology. They backed HD-DVD but likely had no intention of ever using it for games anyway. HD-DVD died, MS didn't have to worry about losses on their console, and that was that. MS is now able to lower prices, and Sony is not. Which CONSOLE really won that particular war?

Seriously what about 30 billion in losses aren't you getting haha. Is this just flying over your head or are you simply avoiding the truth on purpose.

 

I'm not talking about that, because that has nothing to do with current profitability per console.  I'm talking about the fact that MS is now making a profit on every piece of hardware they sell and every piece of software that sells for it.  They also have a machine on the market that's more successful than its predecessor in every category.  With the Jasper revision coming up, they will be able to lower their prices even more and still make money per console.  PS3 is not at that stage yet, and that's bad for Sony with regards to this precious console war that everyone wants to win.

Every company loses money at the beginning of a console cycle.  MS lost more than they normally would have with the RRoD issues.  But Sony has also so far lost money in the billions on the PS3 and it's still not a profitable machine for them.  If MS comes out ahead of Sony this gen, which I'm not ruling out, the market share and mind share they will have gained will be much more important than the money they lost on hardware replacements.  It could very well be that their "get to the market first" strategy could work.  Maybe it will, maybe it won't. 

I don't care who wins.  I just care that there's competition.  Sony single handedly destroyed the Gamecube and the Dreamcast and pretty much destroyed the original Xbox in the end.  I want to be able to buy a box that's not Sony.  I have not had a good history with Sony products, and I don't think their business strategies are any less devious than MS.