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Oyvoyvoyv said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
This is the first time ever I've decided to give up on my own thread.

I normally understand pretty much everything on this site, but I can't understand anything now.

A handful people seem to agree, and write 10 word pages describing that they agree, in a way that makes it seem they disagree.

Or am I missing something?

 

Back on topic.

Apple is now the second largest PC hardware manufacturer in the world. They are now 50% the size of MS in revenue. They own the personal music market, and make a handheld device that (on there first attempt), eclipsed people who have been making phones for years.

All I can say is Apple is in position to try and attempt to take over the living room with success. They have done nothing to prove that's the direction they plan to go, or that it's the market they are after.

So, no, apple is not at the moment going to take over your living room, just you pocket :)

 

 Actually, they are hell of a lot away from being the biggest PC manufactorer. HP is roughly 6 times as big as them, and Dell somewhere around 5 times. In sales that is, not revenue.

The Iphone hasn't really taken off. For a cell-phone part, 6M in a year isn't all that good.

Saying that they own the personal music market is an exaggaration. That's like saying Sony owned the last 2 generations of console gaming.

They aren't that good at gaining in the money, MS gets 2.5 times as as much as Apple pr dollar your spend.

 

Do you mean unit sales vs. revenue? That makes sense. But over the past year, if not longer, Apple has continuously gained marketshare, and their desktop sales have been up a lot when PC desktop sales are doing down.

In traditional marketing, you'll learn that 40% marketshare is about what you can get. Nokia, the biggest cell phone manufacturer in the world, has their marketshare thereabouts, and it has been there for years. iPod has, what, 70% of the mp3-player markets. That's about as close to owning the market as you're going to get without a total monopoly. Even now, Apple is criticized for having a de facto monopoly in mp3 markets.

As for the comment about Apple's ability to make money, you have to remember that they are an integrated hardware-software company. Hardware has a certain, non-negligible manufacturing cost which limits the margin whereas software has negligible manufacturing cost and the margin closes in on 100% the more you sell. For what it does, Apple is a money-making machine, and it is reflected in their stock price.