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The Ghost of RubangB said:
TheRealMafoo said:
I am not really a fan of socialism or communism, so I will vote McCain.

Anyone who uses the term "economic justice", needs to never lead this country.

A purely free market is not foolproof.  It leads to monopolies and exploiting the working class.  People fought and died for our rights to 8 hour shifts, 5 day workweeks, and age limits on when they can cram us all into factories.  I'd call each one of those anti-free-market regulations "economic justice."  I'd also call them a basic human rights issue.

Remember the Depression?  We've been socialist ever since.  It only takes one big market crash to scare people into providing the safety blanket for the poor.  It's been there ever since.  If you think America is 100% capitalist, you're wrong.  We're socialist as hell.  And with the cost of food going up and the health value of food going down, and the cost of energy going up, and the population going up, all at the same time, more capitalism isn't going to help anybody.  If anything we'll turn to more socialism to minimize the effects on the hungry.

I think a country's only as good as how it takes care of its hungriest citizen.  You ever seen a bum frozen to death in the street?  Do you blame welfare or capitalism?

If that bum lived in a country where every opportunity to succeed was available to him, and he chose not to take advantage of it, I blame the bum.

Where is the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, does it say it's your right to be fed by the government? I believe it's the countries responsibility to remove all roadblocks to success. I believe it's the individuals responsibility to take advantage of it. If you do not do what is required of you to feed and house yourself when you otherwise could have, why should I?

In revers, if I stop working, and have no means of supporting myself, it should be no one else's obligation to do so. If people want to donate there money/time to charities to feed and house the poor, that's great (I do this), but to have the government tell me I need to go to work because they won't, pisses me off.

That is not what the US government was established to do.