| TheRealMafoo said: I am not really a fan of socialism or communism, so I will vote McCain. Anyone who uses the term "economic justice", needs to never lead this country. |
A purely free market is not foolproof. It leads to monopolies and exploiting the working class. People fought and died for our rights to 8 hour shifts, 5 day workweeks, and age limits on when they can cram us all into factories. I'd call each one of those anti-free-market regulations "economic justice." I'd also call them a basic human rights issue.
Remember the Depression? We've been socialist ever since. It only takes one big market crash to scare people into providing the safety blanket for the poor. It's been there ever since. If you think America is 100% capitalist, you're wrong. We're socialist as hell. And with the cost of food going up and the health value of food going down, and the cost of energy going up, and the population going up, all at the same time, more capitalism isn't going to help anybody. If anything we'll turn to more socialism to minimize the effects on the hungry.
I think a country's only as good as how it takes care of its hungriest citizen. You ever seen a bum frozen to death in the street? Do you blame welfare or capitalism?
Kasz216 said:
You really need to re-read Obama's positions. He will put troops back in Iraq if Iraq can't handle it. He's also promised to be very hard on Iran and invade them if nessisary. As for Minimium Wage. The problem with that is that it increases inflation, as when the workers wages go up, companies raise the price of products in retaliation. Furthmore the smaller mom and pops that hire minmium wage workers because they can't afford it take a big hit and go out of buisness. It's better to raise minium wage when the economy is booming and companies are less likely to adjust prices to make back profits or do so on a smaller scale. To do it when the economy is bad just raises inflation... and puts a lot of people who work for small chains out of buisness helping bigger corporations secure higher market shares and be able to screw people more. The abortion issue is troubling though. However compared to the global food crisis and that Obama's current stances are just going to make food everywhere a LOT more expensive, he's likely going to cost lower and middleclass people money, not save them. Besides McCain is promising about $2000 more per middle class worker in tax cuts then Obama. |
Word up. Good looking out. I'll definitely do a lot more research by November. Neither of the candidates are really liberal enough for me anyway. I wanted Kucinich. :( If Obama really starts to piss me off, I'm not against going 3rd party.
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed and hoping Obama's acting moderate to get swing votes (like everybody ever) and after he's elected he'll be some sort of super-liberal monster.
In the past threads where we all took that quiz about our political beliefs, I think I was the most liberal person on VGC. I was way past Gandhi, and almost off the chart. Teehee.
