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Million on 04 August 2008
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Million said:

I did a lengthy post but i lost it so i'll just have to sumarise.

Nintendo contribute a whole lot to overall market growth but this is due to alot to growth from the casual market Wii-Fit , Wii-Music , Wii-Sports , Super Mario X alot of generic , mass market stuff . Purley from a financial perspective Nintendo has contributed alot to the growth of the industrythrough the creation of new demographics not by increasing the spending or interest of existing ones.

However this growth is something that can be replicated if Nintendo left the industry , i don't think it's so much the innovation that captured the mass markets but it was a product and a concept which apealed to them which brought them in , in the masses it doesn't take alot of genius to come up with Wii-Sports , Wii-Fit or Wii-Music it takes genius to identify the gap in the market and capitalise on it before everyone else has , Nintendo have identified the gap Sony & MS are both able to capitalise on the opportunity if Nintendo leave it but they can't because A.They We're too late B.The Consumer has placed all their eggs in one basket.

In terms of damaging the Integrity of the industry I think Sony & Nintendo play a major role , Microsoft offer nothing unique really . Sony and Nintendo are opposites which compliment each other , Sony contributes to the more hardcore , technological ,"geeky" segment of the gaming industry with their cell technology, blu-ray , HD graphics , hardcore games . Nintendo offers alot to the casual / mass market with hardware and software which apeals to their needs .

I don't think it's a matter of Nintendo innovating far more than anyone else , everything Nintendo is doing has been done before in some form , Nintnedo's genius comes from the utlisation of what already exists to apeal to the masses in ways never done before .

You can say the innovations Nintendo brings has been done before, but that doesn't mean it's any less significant.  They're the only company being aggressive with these innovations - take a look at PS3's motion controls, and how much Sony promotes/uses it.  Some of these innovations also aren't obvious, so had Nintendo never come up with them, they would probably never have come.  I mean, who else would have thought of rumble or something Wii Fit?

I don't think you get it , by definition Nintendo couldn't have innovated it if had already beed done before like I said before Nintendo we're smart in the way that they used what was already here . Wii Fit is by no means genius , Nintendo identifying a gap in the market and capitalising on it was , but it still wasn't something that no other business could do i'm sure Wii-Fit has been done before in a less succesfull form. And nintendo did not invent vibration feedback what are you talking about ?

As for Sony being more innovative than Microsoft, I disagree.  I don't think Sony contributes more to the hardcore than Microsoft does, who also offer HD graphics, hardcore games, argubly superior online, and others like in-game XMB.  There's hardly a difference in how much they contribute to the industry, the only difference I see is people like Sony more than Microsoft.

Firstly i never said Sony was more innovative than Microsoft ( even though I believe they are) my point was Microsoft offers nothing unique to the gaming industry it hasn't done ever , not alot of internal development resources mainly buying exclusive games from 3rd party developers . Here's a list of Sony Published games ( mostly 1st party titles) over the last decade . and with their continued support of the gaming industry I can confidently say Sony leaving would harm gaming far more than MS leaving would.

[edit] Playstation 2

[edit] Playstation 3

[edit] Playstation Network

List of PlayStation Network games

[edit] Playstation Portable

 

RockSmith372 said:
Definitely Sony. Without them, Nintendo would be lazy. Sony has made the videogame industry that we see today
If Sony's main contribution is motivating Nintendo, I think it's safe to say the industry would hurt more with Nintendo gone   There are other competitors, like Microsoft, if Sony left.

 

No RockSmith never said that was Sony's main contributiion , your taking his words out of context.