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I was looking for a X360 two days ago ...I couldnt decide if buying a second hand machine for 129 euros or a brand new machine.THe brand new machine was 217 euros and had packed Forza Motorstorm 2 ,Viva Piñata and Ninja Gaiden II.It was an arcade unit.

I decided to buy that ,it was dirty cheap after all and I wont subscribe to Live so dont need the HD.

Then I spoke to the guy in the store (the chain is GAME ,and these guys have a promotion issue with MS in Spain ,so they are usually mad to sell you the console as they receive incentives) and he told me not to buy the arcade as there was a huge number of consoles faulty ...he told me to buy the Elite that had a way more reliable score.

After that ,and considering the Elite was 370 and hadnt Ninja Gaiden II but a stupid FPS in the pack ,I decided to left the store without buying the console.

Selling your game console with 3 games for free does seem a bit desperate doesnt it?