US winning in Iraq

[Kasz216]

Sqrl said:

First, people who are in Iraq every day say things are going well by every reasonable metric. If you're not one of those people don't embarrass yourself by contradicting them because you have no legitimate grounds to do so.

Second, whether you were for the war or against the war it has already happened and nothing will ever change that. The issue isn't whether we should have a war anymore, that issue has been decided. The issue is determining what responsibilities we have to the Iraqi people and then setting about fulfilling those responsibilities to the best of our ability before we leave.

Third, there are a ton of people who are logically paralyzed by their gushing hatred at even the slightest mention of the war in Iraq. They make arguments about why the war is illegal, why bush should be tried for war crimes, and any number of other extreme views. But at the end of the day those things are never going to happen and all of their effort, all of the energy that they put into screaming about it amounts to nothing more than background noise. These people need to move on before they become the next generation in the line of those who still hold out hope for the South to win the civil war.

I say split the differnce.  Stay in iraq till the Iraqis can handle it themselves AND put Bush on trial for war crimes.

That way everyone can be happy and we can mimize violent genocide.