DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
Sqrl said:
DTG said:
Sqrl said:
You can make absolute statements all you want but it doesn't make them true. The fact is that if there is a god moral relativism is wrong, and until you prove that there isn't a god its actually you that is irrational for insisting that moral relativism is the only rational position.
Moral relativism is a rational position, but it is not the only one.
PS - MarcioSMG also makes a great point. Moral relativism is still a subjective set of morals, so what you're really saying is that morals have no place in the white house. I'm pretty sure thats not what you meant to say though.
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The burden of proof is on you. I can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist, does that mean he does or even "might"?
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So you're going to just ignore the fact that you contradicted yourself and move to another argument? Only this time you're making sure the burden of proof is squarely placed on the other side.
Tough luck for you though, because the burden of proof is always on the person making declarations of who is right and who is wrong. I'm not telling you your view is wrong, while you are telling the overwhelming majority of the world's population their view is wrong. Talk about self-importance.
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I studied psychology. The statistical norm does not constitute normality. If tomorrow on every began showing the symptoms of schizophrenia would that suddenly make it "normal"? Saying that you believe in God, an entity lacking any foundation in physical reality or logic is no different than telling your psychiatrist that you think parasites are spreading underneath your skin. They're both delusions. One happens to be a popular delusion which is why it doesn't warrant psychiatric treatment as another one does.
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Did you have one class in psychology or something?
Cause... you didn't even use the term delusion correctly there. Your wrong in a number of hilarious ways... but this is the easiest one to mention as it would be annoying to explain psychology to someone who probably took a required 101 class somewhere.
To be delusional in a psychological sense one needs to have a serious mental disorder.
Furthermore... for something to be a delusion you need proof that it doesn't really exist. So to say people who believe in god are delusional you would need to prove god does not exist.
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By that you're basically saying that there is no such thing as "delusion" since you cannot disprove anything and psychiatrists rarely care to disprove the parasites under your skin, or the lack of real conspiracy theories, or the voices 9n your head.
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Just curious... how many degrees in psychology do you hold?
Look up the official medical definition of a delusion and get back to me. You'll find the qualifications i've stated to be a part of them i'm sure.
It's easy to disprove parasites under someones skin... and actually patients will be checked for psychial symptoms before being submitted to a psychologist or psychiatrist. So yeah... someone will be checked for "parasites" and eczema and the like.
Eh tell you what. I'll quote part of it from Wikipedia since I have my copy of the DSM upstairs.
A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everybody else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary.
A child who believes in the Tooth Fairy would not be delusional.
A child who does who belives in the Tooth Fairy after everything was explained. Delusional.
The problem is you are applying a pedestrian meaning of the word delusion with a psychological basis of knowledge.
Which basically shows you either didn't study psychology long, didn't pay attention or understand your classes or got your ideas of psychology from patchwork reading and no actual formal teaching and went wrong that way.
