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Riachu said:

I am looking foward to Fable 2 as well as Fallout 3 so if you think I don't really like RPGs, you're dead wrong.  An RPG can have with a real-time, turnbased battle system or even a hybrid of both.  Stats are the defining element of a video game RPG, not the battle system.

 

And what do the stats mainly tie into practically 100% of the time?  Battle mechanics.  Thus you have a battle system, a stats and random number generator driven battle system, which differentiates rpgs from the other genres. 

And since video rpgs are rooted in the mechanics of pen and paper rpgs, which themselves are evolved from tabletop war games, battles are an entirely important feature in an rpgs.  Without those stat driven battles you have an adventure game.

But basically we agree that an RPG is an RPG as long as it's game mechanics are weighted by stats and random numerical calculations.

But don't try to tell me that the genre isn't getting dumber by the day.  I've been in the video RPG hobby since the early 1980's, console and PC.  I know what I'm witnessing currently.