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You're a tard, I'm one of the most objective people on this site. I support all 3 systems, I simply call it how I see it. You're not even looking at worldwide sales. Being completely unobjective. Wii will be able to outsell both PS3 and 360 in Europe and Japan. *If* they are still having production problems it may not happen in Europe for the first month or 2. According to Nintendo they shipped more than their target goal of 4 million. Again, according to them. We agree on a lot here though. Which is why I don't see why you're calling me a fanboy. Cause I'm not. I just don't cut any system slack, Sony is my favorite in reality, but I'm not gonna purposely pump them, cause I frankly think it's gonna take a while for them to catch up. I agree that Wii will lose any advantage once HDTV becomes the standard, last year 2006 was the first year HD outsold the Tube. Still, a majority of households only have a Tube right now, it will be a few years before the majority of households have a HD. It takes several years of being the dominant seller to overcome the last gen. Just like DVD/VHS or PS2 to PS1. I also agree that this gen will end up very close. Another point I agree with you on. I scrutinize the M$ numbers so much because they have built in such a large desparity between what they have "shipped/sold" to retailers and what the info available to us from sales reports. It's such a large gap. 2 million consoles difference between the numbers. But...wait and see. Once PS3 and Wii start pulling shipped numbers out of their arse, they will also be greater than what's reported sold. All the manufacturers to this to inflate their numbers.