10 most important video games of all time...

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diamuerto said: No cat man, it wasn't a childish argument. Just because you don't like Zelda doesn't mean it's not important. Also, I never said it was as near influential as Mario, so don't assume things.

I like Zelda, it just isn't all that influential. It is one of the greatest series of all time, however there isn't a sector of Zelda type games the way there is Doom, Warcraft, Mario, etc. Also no Zelda was pivotal for the industry. Until Twilight princess, Zelda was always launched in the peak period of the console cycle.

That argument about another Nintendo game would have come up with it was childish. The point and fact is Zelda was the first console game to do it and from there other games followed. It doesn't matter that PC had it because no CONSOLE game had done that yet.

The problem is that this save type was a convenience thing only. The game could have existed with a password system typical of other games of the era.

Zelda is arguably a better transition from 2-d to 3-d than Mario was. The fact that Ocarina of Time is still considered one of the best games in history today should be influence enough. It's not only a fan favorite, it's a critic favorite which is hard to come by these days.

Yeah, but Mario got there first. In fact Banjo Kazooie was a damn good 3-d game as well. As a matter of fact, the Zelda engine was a modified Mario 64 engine.

Z-targeting may have not been the most important thing ever, but it was genious for camera control at the time. You also say FPS fans hate Metroid because of it. I have news for you, Metroid isn't considered a full fps game. It's more of an adventure game. Most of it has to do with exploring and figuring out how to open doors. Most fights have to do with scanning your enemy. Why do you think you have to stop before you shoot. It's not a full blown out fps.

Never said Metroid was an FPS. Just that many consider z-targeting to be "cheating" as it makes things too easy. Z-targeting would be important if it were broadly copied, but it just isn't.

And please don't be offended that my "childish" argument is better than yours. It's obvious that you were thinking, "To hell with Zelda, I like Mario better especially since it sells better."

I never said I like Mario better, nor did I say that the fact that Mario sold better makes a difference. I called your agrument childish because of your lame sarcasm.

And if you hadn't realized by now, I never said Zelda should have been on the list but not Mario. Besides that, I didn't know a game had to sell as well as Mario did to be influential.

This why you are childish, you argued with my post in a condesending sarcastic way.