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Anybody else thinking that rumbling Sixaxis may not really belong as a topic in this discussion? Sure, I think that would suck to buy the controllers and then find out later that rumbling ones would be introduced. However, with the lawsuit going on, I think that could change that situation a little bit. We all knew that they were kind of dancing around the question and the real problem with the Sixaxis was the lawsuit from not allowing them to have any rumble. I don't know maybe I'm going too far into that since I try to read the news on the consoles when I can and I've been waiting for rumbling controllers to come ever since they announced that they made up with immersion before I bought any new controllers (though I did buy the Pelican PS2 adapter) for my PS3.

I also wouldn't see the 80gig PS3 as making any major changes compared to the 360 when it comes to the Core not having a hard drive and the Elite having HDMI as it's more of a revision and it's not really forcing anything (at least not right now, we'll see after the 60gig stock is gone I guess), just taking the place of the last one in line. I'd guess that once they make even more changes as they implement more things to the hardware (65nm cpu's and such), a new version of the PS3 will come to replace the 80gig after the 80gig has replaced the 60gig.