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DMeisterJ said:

@ MrStickball.

On you comparisons you are wholly and largely innacurate. Are you seriously telling me that the PS3 has "unknown" benefits of installation? PS3 installation doesn't improve load times? Then what was the point of the installation? The hell of it? You and I know that installations improve load times, as HDD reading is faster than BD reading. Which was reported as the reason for the installs in the first place. Don't play dumb, you're smart, you know what you're talking about. Also, Microsoft said during internal testing the times decreased 30 percent. Who knows how many games they tested, etc.? So I'd wait for more data than "internal testing" before I tout that. Don't play dumb, you're smart, you know what you're talking about.

I said unknown, because the developers never have stated what the actual benefit of loading times are. Frame rate and load time improvements? Most likely. But I'm comparing what MS has stated will be universal benefits on EVERY game versus the fact that no Playstation 3 game that uses mandatory installations has ever stated what the benefits are/were, so I put "Unknown".

What is "fastest installation on all games" vs. "Variable". The reason for the variable times on the PS3 for installation are because of the "variable" amounts. The smaller the install, the less time it takes, obviously. So I'm not sure how that is better for the 360 than the PS3.

2 things: #1. If you read the thread, you'd understand that Playstation 3 installation times vary, not only on the data, but the game. As mentioned earlier in the thread by PS3 owners, Devil May Cry takes 20 minutes for 4.8GB of data, yet MGS4 takes 10 minutes for 4.5GB. That's what is called a variable rate: it's never the same. Whereas the X360 is, as far as we know, is the same as every game will install the same. And of course, that's nonwithstanding the fact the X360 DVD is faster than PS3 BD-DVD.

Reduced wear and tear would happen on both consoles. What would be the point of installing the game if it didn't read from the hard disk? That's the whole point of the game installs on PS3 is to read from the hard disk. How would the BD drive not spin as much if it's reading from the HDD.

The BD-DVD is still in use when your playing any given Playstation 3 game. As mentioned in the article, the DVD drive does NOT spin at all. Even if the BR-DVD spins half as often when you are forced to install a game on the PS3 is still quite a bit more than a drive that's not being used at all.

Come on now stickball. This install on 360 is a good thing. But comparing it to the PS3 in any other vein beside being optional is foolish. The only reason the installs are not mandatory on the 360 is because the HDD isn't mandatory. What you fail to realize is that the same things that you listed for the PS3 apply to the 360, but you're trying to say that they don't. As if the install on the PS3s HDD is simply for the hell of it. Get over this notion that besides being optional, this is anything different than what happens on the PS3.

I wasn't arguing that there's no benefit. I'm just saying that there's a difference when the actual advantages are fully layed out, and universal versus the developers doing something to make up for sloppy code. Again, look at the DMC4 vs. MGS4 install times - Obviously one developer is using the installs more properly, which will see different benefits.

 

 



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