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dolemit3 said:

People are now indicating that the 360 is obnoxiously louder than a jet engine. They've also admitted that the 360 drive has a wear and tear problem with the drive spinning so much. And also, inadvertently made it known that the load times on 360 games is not exactly where they'd want them to be.

This is what I am talking about. All of these were known since day one.

No...  People definitely were trying to downplay all of the things that I stated in that post. 

That wasn't the point of my post, but those things were definitely stated before, when people tried to downplay RRoD and all things associated with it.