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azrm2k said:
twesterm said:

No, I just think the overall system isn't good.  With achievements you have thing that are worth a specific amount, which trophies they are some obscure amount.

What does it take to get 5000 gamer points?  A lot of work.  What does it take to get to level 5?  I have no fucking clue.

I guess it's just a matter of do you like more abstract or exact.

 

Yeah it's a good start and I really hope a lot of older games get patched/new games get trophies but it just seems like MS' system is better. 

The thing is even if it's not public there probably is some exact criteria for levels.

As in Level 4 requires X points and that could be Y silver trophies or (Y - 1) silver trophies and a bronze or something weird like that. Breaking trophies down into gold/silver/bronze (especially to display in Home) is a good idea but an overall GS would be nice.

 

What does it take to get 5,000 points? A lot of work? How would you know that? Its a comparable thing. points are just as abscure. You only know it takes work because you have done it and you can compare what it took you. Same thing with trophies. After I get my level to 5 I will know what other people had to go through.

Basically if you tell someone who knows nothing of each system "This guy has 5,000 gamer points and this guy has 20 trophies" the person wont know what the hell you are talking about for either one.

anyways 5,000 points... isn't 2 hours of gameplay for FN3 worth 1,000?