When does MGS4 start to get really engaging?

[rocketpig]

DMeisterJ said:

kn said:

 Since I've not played the previous ones.

We have identifiied the problem.

MGS4 is fan service, through and through, so if you've never played it before, it'll probably be really hard for you to get "into" it.

Especially the end boss battle. It would be entirely lame if you haven't played the earlier games.

Personally, I thought the end battle was genius, even though the controls sucked ass.