March, critical point in 7th generation

[Kwaad]

OriGin said: Completely serious. Look at the advertising... every golfing dad and his dog are going to want that game when they get to try it out. It's MUCH cheaper to buy a Wii for $250 than it is to buy a golfing simulator / in home driving range simulator... It's also much easier for a middle aged man who can pretty much afford anything he wants... who will buy a Wii for JUST ONE GAME (Wii sports the double edged sword 'ar mi hearties') but then the challenge for Nintendo is selling him more games in the future... that's the danger with expanding the market. Do you really think all those people who purchased Brain Training on DS have bought more games than JUST that?? I think millions of DS units are sitting there with JUST ONE GAME - that's what I think Picross and Sudoku and maybe Brain Training 2 is aiming towards. Kwaad I respect you're oppinion strongly as a very hardcore games gamer... u may not be 'hardcore' but you like 'good games' which is a good thing not a bad thing, but the market is not fuelled by 'Good Games' (see Dreamcast Failure - personally I think the Dreamcast has one of the best good:bad games ratios in history, but that didn't do so well). Judging the success of a console by the rating / reviews and the number of reviewed 'good games' is not a good method. It's good for selling to hardcore, but no more than that... I think maybe 5 - 10% (11 - 22 million people) of the US population is HARDCORE hardcore game players in the US and that is being HUGELY HUUGGGGGEEELY generous. 8million of them already have consoles (between all three - some have more than one so that number comes down) so maybe 5 - 7million are currently at the next gen? I don't consider myself to be a fan of any particular brand or console, personally I like to play ALL good games... RPG's and PC FPS are my fortey but i'd love to see anybody reading this' oppinion on if I sound biased in my posts or just generally making good points - i just signed up recently because I think I can have some valid points when I get the time to posts, so I DO NOT want to come across like a 'fanboy' of any particular console.

You dont tend to come across as fanboyish. However I do wanna point out a few things about Dreamcast. I know about 5 people who were planning on buying one. (only knew 1 that had one) and then they just up and scrapped it. If they would have kept the hardware line going for another year, it would have taken off. Games like that, that sell the console, and 1 game, typically dont do very good. Alot of the older people I know, would buy it... Play it for a few weeks, and realise it isnt helping them in any way. Either sell it, or put it in storage untill they feel like playing it agian. That is like 3 games sold for the console. that is a horrible attach ratio. My main question about that game is, the fact the PS2, PS3, 360 versions all got rated better... Intrigues me. And it's not the. "Some reviews screw Wii games." thing. The *highest* rated review for it is lower than than the average for PS2, PS3, and 360. If things like that keep happening to the Wii... I'm losing hope.