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kilik on 26 January 2010

At least 700k, even with bad marketing. Probably around 1 mill lifetime.



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kevinrize on 26 January 2010

redsteel 2 is the 5th most preordered game in europe so ithink itll reach abot 600k in the first year but it might be a million



dsister44 on 26 January 2010
kevinrize said:
redsteel 2 is the 5th most preordered game in europe so ithink itll reach abot 600k in the first year but it might be a million

Do you have any proof of this?



Demotruk on 26 January 2010
kevinrize said:
redsteel 2 is the 5th most preordered game in europe so ithink itll reach abot 600k in the first year but it might be a million

Where do you find this European pre-order chart?



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

jarrod on 26 January 2010
Boneitis said:

@ jarrod
Releasing MW on the Wii now was probably a lot cheaper than releasing it at the time of the original launch. And its still getting pretty strong sales without wasting money on advertising.

So was money left on the table? Maybe not. Will people buy MW2 on the Wii even if its a couple years late? Definitely.

It's damaged the brand potential on Wii, and assuredly sold less thanks to how it's been handled (zero promotion, 2 years late).  Hell, Activision didn't even have official media before the game actually released, press had to rely on devteam/tester leaks.

Had they released MWR "on time", it wouldn't have needed extra advertising (it'd have shared the same massive promotional push the HD versions enjoyed), and it probably would've sold 3+ times as much.  And we'd probably have (in turn) seen WOW triple it's sales, and MW2 on Wii this year bringing in extra millions as well.  Money left on the table, missed opportunity, whatever you want to call it....



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Boneitis on 26 January 2010
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:

@ jarrod
Releasing MW on the Wii now was probably a lot cheaper than releasing it at the time of the original launch. And its still getting pretty strong sales without wasting money on advertising.

So was money left on the table? Maybe not. Will people buy MW2 on the Wii even if its a couple years late? Definitely.

It's damaged the brand potential on Wii, and assuredly sold less thanks to how it's been handled (zero promotion, 2 years late).  Hell, Activision didn't even have official media before the game actually released, press had to rely on devteam/tester leaks.

Had they released MWR "on time", it wouldn't have needed extra advertising (it'd have shared the same massive promotional push the HD versions enjoyed), and it probably would've sold 3+ times as much.  And we'd probably have (in turn) seen WOW triple it's sales, and MW2 on Wii this year bringing in extra millions as well.  Money left on the table, missed opportunity, whatever you want to call it....


I don't think there's much of an audience for CoD on the Wii. Atleast compared to HD consoles.

Eitherway, they must be making plenty given how little they put into it.



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 26 January 2010

stof... i have a feeling i'll be joining the losers side of the bets soon to it'll be 0 to 1 on my side...

atleast ya tried though. :P



jarrod on 27 January 2010
Boneitis said:
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:

@ jarrod
Releasing MW on the Wii now was probably a lot cheaper than releasing it at the time of the original launch. And its still getting pretty strong sales without wasting money on advertising.

So was money left on the table? Maybe not. Will people buy MW2 on the Wii even if its a couple years late? Definitely.

It's damaged the brand potential on Wii, and assuredly sold less thanks to how it's been handled (zero promotion, 2 years late).  Hell, Activision didn't even have official media before the game actually released, press had to rely on devteam/tester leaks.

Had they released MWR "on time", it wouldn't have needed extra advertising (it'd have shared the same massive promotional push the HD versions enjoyed), and it probably would've sold 3+ times as much.  And we'd probably have (in turn) seen WOW triple it's sales, and MW2 on Wii this year bringing in extra millions as well.  Money left on the table, missed opportunity, whatever you want to call it....


I don't think there's much of an audience for CoD on the Wii. Atleast compared to HD consoles.

Eitherway, they must be making plenty given how little they put into it.

Well, now there isn't, no.  That's sort of the point, Activision didn't cultivate that audience like they did with GH.



Boneitis on 27 January 2010
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:

@ jarrod
Releasing MW on the Wii now was probably a lot cheaper than releasing it at the time of the original launch. And its still getting pretty strong sales without wasting money on advertising.

So was money left on the table? Maybe not. Will people buy MW2 on the Wii even if its a couple years late? Definitely.

It's damaged the brand potential on Wii, and assuredly sold less thanks to how it's been handled (zero promotion, 2 years late).  Hell, Activision didn't even have official media before the game actually released, press had to rely on devteam/tester leaks.

Had they released MWR "on time", it wouldn't have needed extra advertising (it'd have shared the same massive promotional push the HD versions enjoyed), and it probably would've sold 3+ times as much.  And we'd probably have (in turn) seen WOW triple it's sales, and MW2 on Wii this year bringing in extra millions as well.  Money left on the table, missed opportunity, whatever you want to call it....


I don't think there's much of an audience for CoD on the Wii. Atleast compared to HD consoles.

Eitherway, they must be making plenty given how little they put into it.

Well, now there isn't, no.  That's sort of the point, Activision didn't cultivate that audience like they did with GH.

Well I'm saying sales wouldn't be much different even if it was launched with HD consoles. You disagree, I guess we can end on that.



jarrod on 27 January 2010
Boneitis said:
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:
jarrod said:
Boneitis said:

@ jarrod
Releasing MW on the Wii now was probably a lot cheaper than releasing it at the time of the original launch. And its still getting pretty strong sales without wasting money on advertising.

So was money left on the table? Maybe not. Will people buy MW2 on the Wii even if its a couple years late? Definitely.

It's damaged the brand potential on Wii, and assuredly sold less thanks to how it's been handled (zero promotion, 2 years late).  Hell, Activision didn't even have official media before the game actually released, press had to rely on devteam/tester leaks.

Had they released MWR "on time", it wouldn't have needed extra advertising (it'd have shared the same massive promotional push the HD versions enjoyed), and it probably would've sold 3+ times as much.  And we'd probably have (in turn) seen WOW triple it's sales, and MW2 on Wii this year bringing in extra millions as well.  Money left on the table, missed opportunity, whatever you want to call it....


I don't think there's much of an audience for CoD on the Wii. Atleast compared to HD consoles.

Eitherway, they must be making plenty given how little they put into it.

Well, now there isn't, no.  That's sort of the point, Activision didn't cultivate that audience like they did with GH.

Well I'm saying sales wouldn't be much different even if it was launched with HD consoles. You disagree, I guess we can end on that.

Sales wouldn't be better if MWR released 2 years ago with actual advertising?  Seriously?!  Are you high?