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Xoj on 04 November 2009
jesus kung fu magic said:
Xoj said:
well i think it's true valve statement this gen have been nothing of fanboyish.
we have seen ps3 it's capable for, it's not them not able to do it, just closet minded to actually do it.

if they still can't do it, it's probably for the same reason gabe can't loose weight.

Hmmmmm......I wonder where insomniac fits into this...

well insomniac just don't talk shit about the 360, they just haven't developed multiplatfrom game because sony have funded all their games and owns the IPS. and ted price it's not overweight

 



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Shoestar on 04 November 2009

Who cares about Valve not making games on PS3? They don't make very highly graphical games that run on mid range pcs and x360s... everyone should have a PC... a valve game runs best on PC anyway.



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Xoj on 04 November 2009
Shoestar said:
Who cares about Valve not making games on PS3? They don't make very highly graphical games that run on mid range pcs and x360s... everyone should have a PC... a valve game runs best on PC anyway.

indeed i seen team forstress 2 running on a intel 4500HD



coolguy on 04 November 2009

Valve is a lazy has been game devopler. they are still milking the half life 2 enigine
with the left for dead series and it's showing its age. gabe is a jabba the hutt looking guy lol.
plus they are up MS butt kissers. i dont wanna see there games on the ps3 if they look like
left for dead games.Valve cant hold a candle to ND and insomica



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Procrastinato on 04 November 2009

Yeah Valve's stuff works good on PCs.

Doesn't work so hot on PS3s, though. Its not the PS3's fault, despite Valve's claims. That's kinda the point that the Gearbox guy was addressing. So many devs have now demonstrated that working on the PS3 is, while perhaps different, is not as hard as some devs (i.e. Valve) like to pretend, and is, in fact, new and thus cool.

Parallelism IS the future of computing, and any serious developer will embrace that change. You don't have to like the PS3 to acknowledge that its a cool architecture, with a lot of potential. And yep, I'd say that's a proven fact, at this point. That's basically all the Gearbox guy is getting at.

Valve's public statements about the PS3 just look... ignorant, at this point.  They have no backing.  They may as well just come out and say "we stand to make more money from claiming exclusivity via 'ease-of-use', because MS pays us extra to do our exclusives that way".



 

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Blood_Tears on 04 November 2009
Xoj said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Xoj said:
well i think it's true valve statement this gen have been nothing of fanboyish.
we have seen ps3 it's capable for, it's not them not able to do it, just closet minded to actually do it.

if they still can't do it, it's probably for the same reason gabe can't loose weight.

Hmmmmm......I wonder where insomniac fits into this...

well insomniac just don't talk shit about the 360, they just haven't developed multiplatfrom game because sony have funded all their games and owns the IPS. and ted price it's not overweight

 


Good enough for me, but i don't know about the J man..



Avarice28 on 04 November 2009
Kasz216 said:
Avarice28 said:
Kasz216 said:
Avarice28 said:
Kasz216 said:
Attoyou said:
i agree with him, We cant Expect Next gen game out of Valve , we can expect upgraded PS2 games.

Cause the PS3 is so much different from the PS2.

I mean look at the controller for instance... so different.

What are you talking about?!

He's saying that you can't expect next generation PS3 type games from valve... instead upgraded PS2 games... (or at least thats what it seems like.)

When in general PS3 games are in fact.... upgraded PS2 games. 

It's like the difference between the NES and the SNES.

 

So what you are saying is the 360 runs upgraded xbox 1 games as well?  See the logic makes no sense, I owned both of the previous generation consoles....and there is nothing out on both of them that looks anything or runs anything like last gen games.  If this is in regards to valve, yes you are correct; left for dead looks alot better on pc then on the 360; the orange box for consoles are just ports from the xbox version of half life 2, so in this you are correct.  But it ends there with valve, every other game developer seems to live and develop in this generation of consoles without exception.

Yes.  I am saying that... 360 does run upgraded valve Xbox 1 games.

graphics done by the source engine do nothing as far as "next generation" goes.

 

Fixed it for you, no problem.

 

 



Pristine20 on 04 November 2009

i've never played a valve game and I really cant see why the one's that are out there are so hyped so I really don't care for the lack of ps3 support. Why is a game where you team up to shoot zombies, with no story whatsoever, so much fun? I saw my bro playing l4d and I just don't get why it's fun. Maybe I'm just ignorant. Oh well, to each, his own



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Procrastinato on 04 November 2009
Pristine20 said:
i've never played a valve game and I really cant see why the one's that are out there are so hyped so I really don't care for the lack of ps3 support. Why is a game where you team up to shoot zombies, with no story whatsoever, so much fun? I saw my bro playing l4d and I just don't get why it's fun. Maybe I'm just ignorant. Oh well, to each, his own

Most of Valve's games have really good level design and gameplay.

From the tech-perspective, they were some of the first devs to jump on the some modern shader techniques (they are just down the road from MS, after all) with HL2, and thus, people think they have good engineers -- when in fact its MS that has the good engineers.  Valve does good game design, and some decent art.  Every Valve game follows this same path -- good gameplay, but nothing interesting or new technologically.  HL, HL2, TF, TF2, L4D, L4D2... all good games.  Only HL2 was impressive, and only because MS held their hands, IMO.

L4D is a fun game.  Its not a technologically impressive game at all.  Valve's standpoint on console hardware differences is meaningless.



 

Avarice28 on 04 November 2009
Procrastinato said:
Lets see... Gearbox has ported Halo to PC, ported some Valve stuff, made Band of Brothers series (which was really good while still under Gearbox's control), now has Borderlands out (which is awesome)...

Valve... did some cool games eons ago (let's call them "DOOM remakes" because yeah, that's what they were), and published a cool game that they didn't create (Portal), and recently made a game for the X360 and PC (L4D), that they repackaged with some new level and character content and slapped a "2" on the end of the name.

Gearbox just released a fricking awesome game on both X360 and PS3, and Valve... made a pretty good MP game on "two" platforms largely touted as being "easy" to co-develop for, then made a content sequel (i.e. a full-priced map pack) that fans were in an uproar over, after having purchased basically the same game last holiday.

I'm thinking the Gearbox guy knows his hardware a LOT better than the Valve guys do, these days, especially given all the great PS3 games we see these days.

You guys treat Valve like they're the Beatles or something... or like they were Blizzard, or Naughty Dog, or Elvis. When really, they're more like the Big Bopper -- made a little something great eons ago, then died in a plane crash and came back to life as businessmen posing as game developers.

Best response on the board thus far, kudos +1