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selnor on 09 September 2009

^ Read it again.

M$ aren't saying anything about Valve. M$ are saying we make every publisher or dev charge for DLC, they gave Valve a one off letting the first DLC be totally free. What they are saying is they cant do anymore free as it's unfair to all the other publishers or devs. What Valave are saying is they see exactly where M$ are coming from, saying it would be unfair for M$ to allow another free DLC. Do you see?



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badgenome on 09 September 2009
MAFKKA said:
I misinterpreted it then. Its MS who calls themselves unfair then is it?

It's Valve saying that Microsoft is saying that it would be unfair to publishers who want to scalp people with paid DLC if they allow Valve offer such substantial DLC for free.



MAFKKA on 09 September 2009

AH! I see. My bad!

First i read it as "We [Valve] think that MS really must be thinking that they are unfair if We[Valve] can have DLC out for free while they[MS] charges for it"

Then i read it as "We [Valve] had one DLC out for free. And I think... they [MS] have to look and say, wow, we're [MS] kind of being unfair to everybody else [Gamers] if these guys [Valve] can do that [Have free DLC on Steam]."

But now i see what you're saying.



sergiodaly on 09 September 2009

if valve dont want to charge and M$ did it any way, does that mean that valve aint get any money for their work and M$ is getting money for it? (and 7$ for a DLC that they are not paying the devs for it, this has a name) i think valve can say that this is unfair .... for shore!

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MAFKKA on 09 September 2009

And it wasnt ment as a Troll anything. Just the way i read it. Im not like that!



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Akvod on 09 September 2009
MAFKKA said:
AH! I see. My bad!

First i read it as "We [Valve] think that MS really must be thinking that they are unfair if We[Valve] can have DLC out for free while they[MS] charges for it"

Then i read it as "We [Valve] had one DLC out for free. And I think... they [MS] have to look and say, wow, we're [MS] kind of being unfair to everybody else [Gamers] if these guys [Valve] can do that [Have free DLC on Steam]."

But now i see what you're saying.

... I'm confused >.<



penguin on 09 September 2009

The trouble is I find it hard to take the OP seriously, I know Valve do not like the PS3 and they are not releasing left for dead,/2 portal still alive etc on the PS3 but what I mean is the OPs sig

It is pictures of future PS3 semi exclusives(some are old revamped PS2/PSP titles) but I see no multiformat games there at all, and this is the Microsoft discussion area so to me I am setting this post to ignore.........................



MAFKKA on 09 September 2009

So because i own a PS3 makes links to other newssites worthy of ignore? Fanboy much?

As for Multiplat.. Dantes Inferno is multiplatform. And now ive changed my sig. Do you feel that the link to another newssite is more creditable now?



sinha on 09 September 2009

Wow, the OP's headline is such a failure:

OP: Valve calls Microsoft "Unfair"

Actual quote: "We had the one DLC out for free," Faliszek explained. "And I think... they have to look and say, wow, we're kind of being unfair to everybody else if these guys can do that."


So the actual quote is that it would be unfair to other companies for Valve's new DLC to be free, because they already put out one DLC for free.

That's almost the exact opposite. Brilliant.



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ocnkng on 09 September 2009
selnor said:

The title makes you think Valve is directly calling M$ unfair. When in reality they are saying they add the charge so as not to be unfair to other devs and publishers.

EDIT: So in reality they are calling M$ fair.

So M$ charges for a DLC that is free on the PC and then spouts some bullshiit about how they are trying to be 'fair' in doing this. And we are supposed to take that spin at face value?



 

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