I respect him for changing his views, if he wasn't happy being a republican then he would not have been a very good republican.
It's like if you were a Engineer but you grew tired of engineering and wanted to become a Chef. you would make a much better chef because you would be more enthusiastic about your job.
It's not an easy thing to do, but much more rewarding personally
TheRealMafoo said:
Let’s be real... it had nothing to do with that, and everything to do with him being 20 points down in the polls in his own state. It was obvious he was not going to with the Republican Primary, so he had to change. |
Do you think one didn't influence the other?
Let's be even more real, this was one of the only GOP members in Congress in the Northeastern area of the country. Republicans should have treated this person like a god, and asked, "How are you able to win in that kind of district?" But instead, they treated him like a traitor. What did they think would happen? Democrats are certainly much nicer to the Blue Dog Democrats in Southern areas and to Democrats in parts of the country that the party has typically had a harder time winning, like New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada.
I mean really, is the GOP trying to be the minority party or what? I honestly am not sure.
You should embrace the moderates in your party, not treat them like they are swine. And the same goes for the people who elect them. Does the Pennsylvania Republican Party really think that a guy as conservative as Toomey would win a statewide election when Pennsylvania went to Obama by 10 points? Its idiotic, childish, and bad for the party to elect a no-name person in your primary against a five-term Senator who has been there since 1980 in that kind of political climate. Frankly, I blame Pennsylvania Republicans as well for being so damn stupid.
Democrats should embrace their moderates as well, and I will criticize them for it if they don't. The moderates in your party are the ones you should take care of as they are the ones who will help you maintain power. Putting pressure on them like the GOP did on Specter is the way you lose power or lose what little power you may have in the case of the Republicans.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Clever politically.
Also puts the democrats one step closer to complete control of the political institutions, bar the supreme court.
When the next Congress begins in 2011, there will likely be no more than two Republicans out of the eighteen Northeastern senators (Gregg is retiring, and a Dem is the prohibitive favorite).
Not surprising. Sadly this means Philadelphia no longer has a Pro-Life Democrat and a Pro-Choice Republican.
Wait the Democrats didn't go after Liberman? Are you kidding Akuma?
I mean Liberman did have to run as an independent in his state.
Specter did so because he was like 20 points down in preliminary polling for '10. He will not vote with the Dems 100% of the time. He was a Dem before in the 70s anyway. He will probably be defeated in the PA Dem primary anyway.
We could always pull over some Blue Dogs.
akuma587 said:
Do you think one didn't influence the other? Let's be even more real, this was one of the only GOP members in Congress in the Northeastern area of the country. Republicans should have treated this person like a god, and asked, "How are you able to win in that kind of district?" But instead, they treated him like a traitor. What did they think would happen? Democrats are certainly much nicer to the Blue Dog Democrats in Southern areas and to Democrats in parts of the country that the party has typically had a harder time winning, like New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada. Akuma, Specter was elected to the Senate as a Dem, switched to GOP, and is now switching back. Just wanted to let u know. I mean really, is the GOP trying to be the minority party or what? I honestly am not sure. You should embrace the moderates in your party, not treat them like they are swine. And the same goes for the people who elect them. Does the Pennsylvania Republican Party really think that a guy as conservative as Toomey would win a statewide election when Pennsylvania went to Obama by 10 points? Its idiotic, childish, and bad for the party to elect a no-name person in your primary against a five-term Senator who has been there since 1980 in that kind of political climate. Frankly, I blame Pennsylvania Republicans as well for being so damn stupid. Democrats should embrace their moderates as well, and I will criticize them for it if they don't. The moderates in your party are the ones you should take care of as they are the ones who will help you maintain power. Putting pressure on them like the GOP did on Specter is the way you lose power or lose what little power you may have in the case of the Republicans.
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| Kasz216 said: Wait the Democrats didn't go after Liberman? Are you kidding Akuma? I mean Liberman did have to run as an independent in his state. |
I'm talking about more recently when they were thinking about stripping him of all his chairmanships and stuff.
But yes, you are right that they tried to run against him during the actual election and were able to oust him out of the primary.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
halogamer1989 said:
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Come on, halogamer, gets your facts straight. He changed parties all the way back in 1966 and didn't make it into the Senate until 1980.
And good job ignoring everything else in my post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter
In 1976, Specter ran in the Republican primary for the U.S. Senate and was defeated by John Heinz. In 1978, he was defeated in the primary for Governor of Pennsylvania by Dick Thornburgh.[15] After several years of private practice with the prestigious Philadelphia law firm Dechert, Price & Rhoads, Specter ran for the Senate in 1980, this time, successfully. He assumed office in January, 1981.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
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