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Nintendo's Wii: Beating the PlayStation 2 a Real Possibility?

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@ WiteoutKing

Parokki: Totally forgot about the DS's numbers, and I see it being a real possibility, given how much it's been selling over the last few years.


I think there's a good possibility for the Nintendo DS to outsell the PS2, but I don't consider handhelds and home consoles to be direct competitors (I myself expect much more from a home console regarding audio and visual output).

The reason why I think there's a good possibility is that for example I and my girlfriend both own a Nintendo DS, but we wouldn't buy two seperate PS2s or PS3s for just within one home. I think it would make more sense to just buy an additional controller for multi-player fun or maybe eventually a PSP for the PS3 if some interesting PS3 games in the future support the PS3's remote play feature (you can have an additional dedicated screen this way).



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Doubt it, wii price point is its big advantage. But the others will/are coming down in price. Unless the market has expended that much which i doubt it has. Theres also no way wii will be sold for 7 years, wii2 will come much sooner then that.


Any one have an idea what the PS2 is projected to top out at ? 130/140 million ?



I find it almost impossible for any system to ever pass the PS2, the PS2 had no one to challenge it. The sales of the 360/PS3 will be more then xbox/GC, which will stop the wii form ever getting close to the PS2 numbers, plus the PS2 had so much third party support compared to the xbox/GC, the wii does not have that power over the 360/PS3. With all the major game companies making the 360/PS3 the main system to develop for.



I predict the Wii will beat PS2 LTD sales in the second half of 2012.



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Hus said:
Doubt it, wii price point is its big advantage. But the others will/are coming down in price. Unless the market has expended that much which i doubt it has. Theres also no way wii will be sold for 7 years, wii2 will come much sooner then that.


Any one have an idea what the PS2 is projected to top out at ? 130/140 million ?

 it has already been proven the market has expanded due to nintendo, and this will be increasing even more in the upcoming years.

 the real thing is, we can't tell, just guess.



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Neos said:
Hus said:
Doubt it, wii price point is its big advantage. But the others will/are coming down in price. Unless the market has expended that much which i doubt it has. Theres also no way wii will be sold for 7 years, wii2 will come much sooner then that.


Any one have an idea what the PS2 is projected to top out at ? 130/140 million ?

it has already been proven the market has expanded due to nintendo, and this will be increasing even more in the upcoming years.

the real thing is, we can't tell, just guess.


Was there not some article that said 90% of wii owners had previously owned a console ?



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WiteoutKing said:

I won't repost my whole sig (it would be pointless), but after crunching the numbers for the last two weeks, I would like to direct people's attention to the last few bits about the Wii crossing the PS2. Particularly this part:



 Not a chance in hell.  The PS, when it came out, was graphically quite powerful given the technology of the generation.  Also included was the strong support of EA not to mention the DVD player inside it than many bought for having that as well.  The Wii, while innovative, does not have anything in it that is "cutting edge" and therefore isn't going to have the same shelf life.

The bottom line is that the Wii probably has a 4-5 year shelf life tops and I highly expect it will hit, at max, 50% of the lifetime sales of the PS2.

 



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Not likely - The Wii won't expand the market enough (imho) to account for the fact that there are many who prefer PS3/360......both will do better than Gamcube and Xbox did against PS2.



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kn said:

Not a chance in hell. The PS, when it came out, was graphically quite powerful given the technology of the generation. Also included was the strong support of EA not to mention the DVD player inside it than many bought for having that as well. The Wii, while innovative, does not have anything in it that is "cutting edge" and therefore isn't going to have the same shelf life.

The bottom line is that the Wii probably has a 4-5 year shelf life tops and I highly expect it will hit, at max, 50% of the lifetime sales of the PS2.


Consoles are solely kept alive by games released for it and not by any additional features they offer. The NES was released in 1983 and used a processor from the 70's, but not offering graphics or features like home computers at that time didn't stop it from selling well into the 90's.

A steady flow of good/great games in a wide range of genres made it the most popular console. The Genesis/Mega Drive came out in 1988, was technically superior but was still clearly outsold by the NES. Only when Nintendo and 3rd parties really started to shift their resources to the SNES, the NES started to fade.

Size and variety of game library were always the key to a long lifespan, the consoles which fulfilled these criterias are: Atari 2600, NES, SNES, PS1, PS2. None of these consoles had "cutting edge" technology compared to their respective competitors.

All the Wii needs is a steady flow of good/great games in a wide range of genres to ensure a long lifespan. With the sheer number of games released for the Wii this is more likely to happen than for either the 360 or PS3.

The Wii is on its way to match or exceed the PS2 library of games in terms of quality and quantity which should result in a long lifespan. Also, the Wii is tracking way ahead of PS2 sales at this point of its lifespan and could reach more people than the PS2 ever did with titles like WiiFit. For these reasons it's very possible that the Wii will beat the PS2 LTD sales.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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