No, I want a Sega console.

Well no not really, i hate a monopoly. it will allow them to charge higher prices for less and to get sloppy. that being said competiton between devs will be fears to try and sell the games

Even so, a console that was really expensive and catered to the cutting edge enthusiasts is hardly what I would call the PS and PS2. N64 and Gamecube were more cutting edge than Sony consoles where.

OT: Sony and MS will never cooperate.

 $400 (360) + $323 (ps3) = $723

even at "monopoly" prices i'm sure it would have been cheaper for a unified sony/ms console.  besides, what if each movie studio had their own format instead of the unified format of dvd so that you had to buy multiple movie players to have acces to all your favorite movies?  what if each phone company only allowed you to talk to people on the same network so that you had to own multiple phone services to talk to all your friends?

yeah, sure.  those examples are probably a bit extreme but the point is, companies working together doesn't exactly mean the customers are worse off.  sometimes standards, although perhaps not the "best" solution, makes life overall better.  i mean, my god, what if the government hadn't steped in and set a standard for the voltage coming out of your electrical sockets?  even though the voltage they picked (usa) would have been better set at a higher voltage i still feel pretty good about not having to worry about wether my purchse will work in my home...

1. cry about it, I've done nothing wrong, again.

2. i never claimed it was an anti-virus program, but i can get the quote if you'd like. I said it could combat viruses and within the context, it said it could not combat viruses as well as some other method.

3. I'm not changing anything. Given the context of things each generation has a hardcore and a casual system. Given the typical dictionary definition of "casual" (showing little concern, without serious intent, informal) we can see that during each of the eras there is always a hardcore vs casual discrepancy.

Although I agree that SNES is not a casual system, it was the casual system when compared to the others. NEOGEO, you had to be serious about having one, there were no ads on tv, graphics were about arcade quality. Genesis was also the casual comparitively if it wasn't for their advertising. you can tell a lot about the demographic when you look at the advertising. Welcome to the next level. <--- targeting enthusiasts.   SNES did not do this.Therefore, on a scale, with hardcore on the right and casual on the left, although all three would be on the right side of the spectrum, Neogeo would have been at the far end, and snes and genesis would have been in the closer together, but far away from Neogeo.

So, as you can see from this simple explanation, which, is no different from my "fun" explanation because neogeo had cutting edge and snes and gen had all the fun games. Fun applies to the more casual console because it appeals to more audiences. Why would you make a system that had fun games expensive? It makes no sense. If you have a cheap system that everyone can buy, then the fun-ness of games will make the attachment rate super high. You either make the cheap console with fun games or the cutting edge at a high price, with shades of gray in between.

But like I said. You're a baby who got defensive because yo thought I said that snes was for casualzz <--- notice the z. Learn to read and comprehend before you get all upset about something I never even said.

What is strange is that, usually, changing someone's opinion is the hardest thing to do rather than inform them. Informing people is easy. However, you just can't get through the simple facts and "invented" that I said updater was an anti-virus program. Go back and read the post. You're so desperate to be right that it's pitiful.

godot I never listed ps1 or 2 because they were in between hardcore and casual compared to consoles out in the same generation. I instead listed Jaguar and Xbox respectively. I don't think either of those N consoles were more hardcore though, with the possible exception of 64, which was a powerhouse for its time, it was a tough call though and I went with the expensive Jaguar that had amazing graphics but was too expensive to be supported as a mainstream console.

But the gamecube was obviously the casual of its time. It was meant to be portable, it was underpowered and cheap.

then we go for one car, one newspaper, one tv channel, one chocolate, one bubble gum and so on!!! please!!!

I could go for a 3DO sorta future, one development platform, but multiple manufacturers, which would breed competition to keep hardware prices down, but would still be a fairly universal platform. UVGS: Universal Video Game System, which would license out to Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung, etc etc.

3DO failed because it came at the wrong time, aside from the fact that it was the first of the 5th-gen consoles, and the vast majority of gamers were still getting their fix from 4th-gen consoles. 3DO had the right idea, but they didn't have the means, the brand-strength, or the right timing to implement it.

No. However, if it did happen, I'd want it to be a Nintendo console.

Keep on digging your grave. Now you're saying that core systems are about price? The NeoGeo, for example was aimed at bringing an arcade system to houses, it had nothing to do with enthusiasts, as most NeoGeo games were based on fighting (not to put down Samurai Shodown, one of the best out there). This is why it didn't lure many people in - limited genres of software.

Cost has nothing to do with casual vs core, which was your intital post in the first place, a core and casual system for each gen. You're too young to remember, Im sure, but the initial market WAS casual only - Pong, ColecoVision, Atari 2600, Commodore 64. Nintendo took the industry into the more "core" gamer, and expanded that idea with the SNES.  The PS1 took this core market into another idea, and the PS2 started blending core and casual. Nintendo embraced the younger gen with Pokemon with the N64, and the GC suffered because of coy Sony marketing that was tantamount to mudslinging in a political debate.

Your ability to defend your posts is lacking, as you resort to immature terms like calling people a baby, which in turn only proceeds to label yourself with such a terminology. Also, denying or having "voluntary amnesia" on past posts doesn't help you. You defended that earlier conversation about Windows Updater by saying that people do use it instead of a proper antivirus. I simply pointed out that your analogy to anti-cheat ware was improper as the categories used didn't share similar relationships. You went into a tirade in response, defending Windows Updater as a viable antivirus. If you were referring to Windows Defender, I might have been able to give you some credit, as it does (poorly) prevent malware/spyware, but not virii.

To sum it up - power/cost does not equal core/enthusiast systems. The type of library specialized does.

The SNES, which is the only area we seem to agree on, was considered very much as a "core" system, since it has had one of the most impressive RPG libraries on any console. The XB360 is the core system for this gen, with the amount of FPS games available for it. The N64 and PS1 were both core systems. The PS2, XBox and GC were all focused on the core market, tho the PS2 had a section for casuals.

Again, Im simply pointing out the incorrect posting you made, as you weren't around for the full history. You have some growing up to do before people are going to take you seriously.

-- Oh, by the way, the GameCube was more powerful than the PS2, and was praised for better looking versions of the Lord of the Rings game than the PS2 or XB version by IGN and Gamespot. Kinda throws out your concept on casual systems.