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deathgod33 on 01 January 2009

that would be great, but they should wait till next christmas and make a 100 dollar cut.



 

 

 

 

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SCEA on 01 January 2009

There will be a price cut between August and October



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dolemit3 on 01 January 2009

That's in America, but what do SCEE and SCEJ have planned?



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ukeatdabian on 01 January 2009

A fool thread?



Ender on 01 January 2009
phisheep said:
I'm not saying it does. Just that it might do. My reasoning goes like this:

At launch and up to recently, Xbox 360 seen as in direct competition with PS3. Market perception - with the exception of blu-ray, which hasn't had quite the impact that Sony thought - was largely that the two were functionally equivalent, but MS less pricy. So, less money for about the same thing. Gives sales benefit to MS. So far so good.

With recent price drops and advertising, Xbox 360 is deliberately placing itself to fight the Wii on price in the expanded marketplace. Trouble is, it doesn't do everything the Wii does. Doesn't have the motion control, doesn't have the breadth of games, doesn't even look cute. So, market perception that it is the console for people who can't even afford a Wii.

And that is a bad place to be. Even in a recession many people prefer to shop in Tesco rather than Aldi (or whatever the transatlantic equivalent is), because Aldi is just a drop too far.

So I'm suggesting that the price cut may have significantly changed Xbox 360's market perception for the worse.

 

I was laughing the whole time I was reading this.

 



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Magnific0 on 01 January 2009

They could go about it two ways:

1) $50 price cut between April-May plus add more value to the system. Bundle a game with the 80GB PS3 for $349.99, and keep the 160GB Uncharted bundle for $449.99 which could be later replaced for (probably) a GOW3 160GB bundle for that same price. No further cuts until late October, when they should slash $50 off the price again, and bundle a blockbuster Blu-ray movie with the $300 SKU and a Greatest Hits game with the $400 SKU.

2) Just as they start producing the next batch of PS3 with the reduced chipset inside, cut $100 off all SKUs, probably by the end of summer. Until then keep the current price and SKUs, but hopefully release a 160GB bundle with an exclusive new game and after the price cut around september release a bundle with a mega-hit  (ie. GOW3, GT5).



phisheep on 01 January 2009
Ender said:
phisheep said:
I'm not saying it does. Just that it might do. My reasoning goes like this:

At launch and up to recently, Xbox 360 seen as in direct competition with PS3. Market perception - with the exception of blu-ray, which hasn't had quite the impact that Sony thought - was largely that the two were functionally equivalent, but MS less pricy. So, less money for about the same thing. Gives sales benefit to MS. So far so good.

With recent price drops and advertising, Xbox 360 is deliberately placing itself to fight the Wii on price in the expanded marketplace. Trouble is, it doesn't do everything the Wii does. Doesn't have the motion control, doesn't have the breadth of games, doesn't even look cute. So, market perception that it is the console for people who can't even afford a Wii.

And that is a bad place to be. Even in a recession many people prefer to shop in Tesco rather than Aldi (or whatever the transatlantic equivalent is), because Aldi is just a drop too far.

So I'm suggesting that the price cut may have significantly changed Xbox 360's market perception for the worse.

 

I was laughing the whole time I was reading this.

 

Pleased to be of entertainment value ...

 



Infinity on 01 January 2009
johnsobas said:
Infinity said:
johnsobas said:
coasterlove said:
They will drop the price in the first three months of 2009. And again before Christmas if sales don't pick up dramatically. It's at the point where Sony can't even worry about losing money on sales of the PS3 but time to start be concerned about the brand name of Playstation. They can't afford to be so far behind in sales because it hurts their brand.

It's like Nintendo, they were almost sort of a joke as far as consoles go for a while. They're still going to have a hard time trying to be considered anything but a family console. A company has to try to protect their image. Sony has lost a lot of the image they earned through PS1 and PS2. So they will do whatever they need to gain their image back. Lets face it, the first two Playstation systems each sold well over 100 million and at the rate the PS3 is headed, it wouldn't sell 50 million lifetime.

The only way Sony can change that is through price drops. We've seen some big name games come out for the PS3 and all it does is cause a spike for a couple weeks and sales fall back down. Sony needs to drop the price and do it as soon as possible.

Yea except that Nintendo never sold a console at a loss as far as we know. At least they have never had any reported a loss before. If they want to be like nintendo they would increase the amount of 1st party games and think about a way they can tackle next gen. If anything Nintendo has shown us is that you can jump from last to first very quickly. Do you really think it would have helped Nintendo to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on games, marketing, and price drops for the gamecube and n64? No, they were 100x better off just making a good game plan for the wii, carrying it out, and swimming in the billions of dollars they are making.

 

Nintendo has never been last place saleswise. There have been superior consoles to Nintendo's offering in every generation Nintendo has had a home console in, except the NES, that have sold less.

what are you talking about? Ever heard of the gamecube?

I don't know what you mean by "superior consoles," if you mean power then SNES and N64 were not inferior.

All of that is beside the point, Nintendo has shown us that you can go from a bad 3rd place to dominating in 1 generation. It's much easier to do that then it is waste all your money trying to make a 3rd place system slightly more successful.

 

What are YOU talking about? Ever heard of the Dreamcast? Best console, worst selling. The Gamecube was second to last.

 



johnsobas on 01 January 2009
Infinity said:
johnsobas said:
Infinity said:
johnsobas said:
coasterlove said:
They will drop the price in the first three months of 2009. And again before Christmas if sales don't pick up dramatically. It's at the point where Sony can't even worry about losing money on sales of the PS3 but time to start be concerned about the brand name of Playstation. They can't afford to be so far behind in sales because it hurts their brand.

It's like Nintendo, they were almost sort of a joke as far as consoles go for a while. They're still going to have a hard time trying to be considered anything but a family console. A company has to try to protect their image. Sony has lost a lot of the image they earned through PS1 and PS2. So they will do whatever they need to gain their image back. Lets face it, the first two Playstation systems each sold well over 100 million and at the rate the PS3 is headed, it wouldn't sell 50 million lifetime.

The only way Sony can change that is through price drops. We've seen some big name games come out for the PS3 and all it does is cause a spike for a couple weeks and sales fall back down. Sony needs to drop the price and do it as soon as possible.

Yea except that Nintendo never sold a console at a loss as far as we know. At least they have never had any reported a loss before. If they want to be like nintendo they would increase the amount of 1st party games and think about a way they can tackle next gen. If anything Nintendo has shown us is that you can jump from last to first very quickly. Do you really think it would have helped Nintendo to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on games, marketing, and price drops for the gamecube and n64? No, they were 100x better off just making a good game plan for the wii, carrying it out, and swimming in the billions of dollars they are making.

 

Nintendo has never been last place saleswise. There have been superior consoles to Nintendo's offering in every generation Nintendo has had a home console in, except the NES, that have sold less.

what are you talking about? Ever heard of the gamecube?

I don't know what you mean by "superior consoles," if you mean power then SNES and N64 were not inferior.

All of that is beside the point, Nintendo has shown us that you can go from a bad 3rd place to dominating in 1 generation. It's much easier to do that then it is waste all your money trying to make a 3rd place system slightly more successful.

 

What are YOU talking about? Ever heard of the Dreamcast? Best console, worst selling. The Gamecube was second to last.

 

Yea i have a dreamcast and i recall it being discontinued in march 2001, the GC and xbox weren't even out yet.  The dreamcast was on the market with with PS2 for a whopping 5 months NA and Europe..  Comparing the DC to the PS3 is stupid anyway because PS3 will sell 4-5 times as much anyway.

 



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coolestguyever on 01 January 2009

Yeah that will help sales, but at what cost?

Sony is close to breaking even on each PS3, and this will only set them back again. I actually HOPE it doesn't drop price.

I paid $650 for mine so FUCK new PS3 owners who complain about paying $400