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hunter_alien said:
Probably bogus ... maybe its just an exclusivity accord for a new game :?

2/3 Rockstar games are PS3 exclusives.



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I don't see this happening as Sony have lost so much money on the PS3 already. WHy would the main guys at sony allow the game devision to purchase them. Rockstar would be worth $2bn alone. No way sony would be willing to invest 2bn whislt the PS3 is loosing them lots of money.

/me waits for all the sony guys to say you gotta spend money to make money, or but this will give lots of revenue in game sales back to sony.



The real question is:

Is this good or bad for my TTwo Stock?



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Well, I don't see why Sony couldn't or -shouldn't- do this in my opinion. If Microsoft can buy Rare and people drag that topic up every five minutes why cant Sony take on Rockstar?





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Won't happen.



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It could happen...

But, I'm not sure if TakeTwo shareholders would like that much. Rockstar is one of their financial stars and a buy out would have to be worth enough to make them happy.

But the dollar is mightier then the games... If TakeTwo was offered the right amount they would probably sell it.

Considering how much Rockstar makes, the purchase would probably have to top $1 Billion and I don't know if Sony shareholders would be comfortable with that in the current state.

And why would TakeTwo forgo the revenues they know they will make from GTA IV in order to sell out now? A sell out would be more likely a few months after GTA IV is released when the value of Rockstar will be at its highest.



The money Sony spent buying Rockstar (or buying exclusivity from Rockstar) would be better spent to reduce the purchase price of the PS3 ... The more money Sony spends buying developers or exclusivity the larger the operation loss on the Playstation division becomes and it becomes less likely that Sony will approve the price reduction the PS3 needs.

The PS3 really NEEDS to be $300 or less for the release of Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy 13 and Grand Theft Auto 4 or else these games are going to sell half (or quarter) as many copies as the previous version in the series did ...

Having Grand Theft Auto 5 as a PS3 exclusive is MEANINGLESS if it comes at the expense of every other third party in the world.



Hus said:
hunter_alien said:
Probably bogus ... maybe its just an exclusivity accord for a new game :?

2/3 Rockstar games are PS3 exclusives.


 Timed, possibly, but out of the current 7 games that they list for next gen platforms (inlcuding the Wii), only 2 are entirely PS3 exclusive at the moment.



People who speak in metaphors often think they are terribly clever. Especially since they can claim you did not understand the meaning later on. That being said the entire article is pretty vague in the details department.

Sony would have ample financial reason to buy the Rockstar studios from Take 2. That is what you have to do when third party support begins to falter. Look at Nintendo they had to carry their consoles for the last couple generations. Being deep in third places self reliance at a premium. So yes Sony might have to buy a couple more studios to maintain minimum support for their console. Even if that puts them into a deeper hole. Thats buying your way out of the situation.

Why would the other two let Sony get away with this. Perhaps they suspect and know something that Sony can afford to ignore. Rockstar was something a few years ago, but now there is a lot less luster under the hood if the leaks are true. The staff is supposedly incompetent. The management decisions have been less then brilliant. They have a dangerous reputation. They do not walk the line they trip over it. They even seem to be a money pit.

People used to talk the same way about Rare as they are talking about Rockstar. I remember when Rare went to Microsoft, and it was hailed as a wonderful thing. However people who played on the 64 knew something everyone else seemed oblivious to.

Rare had started out making flawless games on that console. They could do no wrong. They were worthy of great praise. However over time they lost that eye for design they started with. Their games became ridiculously complex. Their games became huge. The charm had started to run thin, and began to deviate towards vulgar. Most players would finish a Goldeneye, Blastcorps, Banjo Kazooie. Most however were disappointed with a JFG, DK64, DKR, Perfect Dark.

So through the lifespan of that console. Those who were fans started to get a bad feeling about Rare. Here they started out making perfect games. Then their games went to merely average. Of those last four games I have met very few people that actually played their way through them.

That is just a cautionary tale. The way Rockstar is spinning the other two would have ample reason to consider it not worth the expense. Meanwhile Sony desperately needs another developer and could use some good press. Even if it turns out to be a major waste of money a couple years from now.



famousringo said:
GG Rockstar, it seems to be the destiny of all good studios to be acquired, so they can wither and die within a huge, faceless corporation.

Or maybe this is just a rumour. :P

 Because you know many developers, including David Jaffe, haven't said that Sony offers one of the best working environments and is more responsive to creativity than the majority of development studios...



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