Dodece said:
@Squilliam
I wouldn't agree that having an agenda is an issue. There is nothing patently wrong or dishonest with having an agenda. Now if that agenda leads to using erroneous logic, or the manipulation of data in a fraudulent manner. Well then yes that poster is a bad poster, and yeah you sure as hell should call them on the fact that their bias is tainting their results. However once again having an agenda is not behaving in an improper manner. There is no requirement that they check an agenda at the door. That does not give you a license to troll that poster or their threads. I can say I hate some racial group. Does that mean it is alright to burn my house down?
I also would say I am probably one of the more problem solving posters on these forums. I have recounted in threads countless times ideas that would help Sony not only be more solvent but more successful. Unfortunately this is an opportunity that many Sony supporters have yet to embrace. Sony has options, and Sony has some very good options, but when posters share them its almost as if the crickets chirp.
I was front and center the first year saying Sony should make it a priority to integrate their PC massive titles into their console. Those titles provided free of charge would have been a major boom for the console, and for accessory sales. The console was starving for content, and here was Sony with thousands of hours of content sitting unused. This could have given them that virtual online community that they wanted. Home should have been shelved in favor of integration of these games. They got less for waiting longer.
Hell its still a good concept, and unfortunately it is looking as if Sony is going to piddle away an area where they had a supreme advantage to Microsoft. Sony promised the delivery, and instead it looks as if Microsoft is going to break into yet another market first. Had this been pushed hard by the community. I could guarantee you that the PS3 would have seen at least a million more units sold by this point. That would have been a serious value increase, and it would have drowned out a lot of negativity.
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The issue of agendas is a real issue. It doesn't matter whether you have one or not, the agendas of are a direct cause of the response you're writing your thread about. Gebx was banned for having one such agenda and his actions have soured the response of other people. Remember many people on this site follow this logic; Reach a conclusion, support with an arguement and back it up with facts. Essentially they are covering up trolling with what appears on the surface to be a factual argument.
I remember this many times when people from the Sony camp would come into the Microsoft forum to stir up trouble. So in a way if this was a response to just those people, and just those people were effected then the current Anti-Sony brigades actions would be justified. However you cannot conduct such actions without effecting innocent parties. Now I would love to join in on this, it would be a lot of fun to deliver payback for all the annoying posts/threads I had to witness. However by doing that it would come straight back at me, especially if Sony gets back on their feet in the near future. I choose to not propagate this, and really it doesn't matter who started it, I want to help end it.
