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Forums - Sales Discussion - Wii Starwars... less WW sales than either HD console? Why?

In my opinion, "AAA" really boils down to "development and marketing budget" -- and this game certainly qualifies.

If you can't consider huge budget, huge marketing, or huge sales, (all three of which this game had) as a definition of "AAA", what do you consider to be the definition? It certainly *isn't* review scores.

This is a AAA game, if ever there was one. If you want to claim its not, you're going to have to explain why.

The "legs" issue is the only outstanding one... at this point, this game needs legs on the Wii in order to stand up to the HD versions. I'm sure its still paying the bills -- the license almost ensures that. But this is a strong indicator for 3rd parties, as to which console to focus on, as a primary, and that could be a concern for Wii owners in the future, with regards to overall game quality.

So far, the legs on the Sports titles do recover some of the ground lost early on, but the Wii never fully recovers in any case, even by the end of the year cycle, at which most sports titles completely die off. The HD platforms always end up looking much more attractive for these titles, from a return % and net income point-of-view.



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Groucho said:

It would seem that Star Wars is a license that, somehow, appeals more to the average X360 or PS3 consumer, than it does to the Wii consumer, at this early juncture.

Despite a substantial installbase lead, the Wii has fallen behind the PS3, and significantly behind the X360 in sales for this AAA title thusfar.

Much like Pro Sports titles (although to a lesser degree), it seems that WII-HD crossplatform games might actually do better on the HD consoles than the Wii -- especially since both HD console titles can presumably be developed together, whereas the Wii version needs the extra expense for a down-port, or in this case, a completely different game.

 

I realize this is an early evaluation (that's not the point of this thread -- I'm looking for interesting ideas other than "Wii has legs, pretend all those sports crossplat titles did well after a year, relative to their HD counterparts")... but it strikes me as odd, since I would think that the demographics for this game would fit the Wii perfectly.  I suppose that the general Wii audience is slower to pick up a title than the HD audience is -- explaining the legs of many Wii titles, compared to their HD counterparts, but at this point, the Wii is looking a bit unattractive as a primary development platform for cross-current-gen titles.  Even with long-term sales on the Wii, the cross-platform similarity of the HD consoles seems to make HD cross-platform titles mostly worthwhile even without a Wii port.

If this turns out to be a common occurance with Wii-X360-PS3 crossplat titles, what effects will it have, long-term, on the Wii?

 

The most active gamers are between the age of 15-25 (more or less), and that's precisely the people that buy/play more on the HD consoles. How will this affect the Wii? I really don't think publishers are very happy that most of their games sell very well for just a few weeks, they'd prefer selling constantly even if it is a small amount but for longer periods of times, just like Nintendo has been doing with Nintendogs, Mario kart etc.

 

 



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tarheel91 said:
You guys are making conclusions after less than a month? Wii games tend to be less front-loaded and have stronger legs. For all we know, the Wii version could outsell the other two.

I'm thinking the same. In a perfect world games'll have great openings and steady sales for long periods of times; but we aren't in a perfect world and few games get both things.

 



Smeags said:
Groucho said:

If this turns out to be a common occurance with Wii-X360-PS3 crossplat titles, what effects will it have, long-term, on the Wii?

 

Well, while there are titles (such as this) that have sold more on the PS3 or 360, there are also titles that have sold more on Wii than the 360 and PS3.

Sega Superstars Tennis
Wii: .65
360: .21
PS3: .10

Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (here's a Star Wars game )
Wii: 1.40
360: .83
PS3: .55

Speaking of Lego, both Indy and Batman are also besting their PS3/360 cousins.

But, this'll just end up as a list war, and I don't want that. What it comes down to, especially for a game like Force Unleashed, is that comparative sales won't really matter in this case. It's like saying "Hey, the Wii sold 1.5 million compared to 360's 2 million. It still made us a bunch of money, but it sold less so we don't want a part of Wii. Sorry."

Btw, your sig makes me smile.

You haven't quoted Pro Sports titles... you quoted cartoony "kid" sports games as examples for the Wii.

All that really suggests is that kids games have a large audience on the Wii... but I think we knew that already.

That's kind of a side issue -- important, yes, but I wanted to focus more on "grownup" AAA titles.  Point taken though -- any game focused on a younger audience does very very well on the Wii, for certain.  I kinda thought any Starwars title would fit into that category as well.

 



So I suppose Tiger Woods 07 08 and 09 have sold better on the HD's because of the bigger openings... not.



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trestres said:
So I suppose Tiger Woods 07 08 and 09 have sold better on the HD's because of the bigger openings... not.

 

Tiger woods is the exception, sadly.  Hardly the rule.  There are half a dozen pro sports titles on the PS360 that say exactly the opposite.

 

That would be another interesting discussion though -- why golf, and not other sports on the Wii?



I think what the OP is saying is that THE ps2 never had to deal with this. For being the leader of this GEN, the wii is not dominating in the multiplatform area. It might change later on, but I doubt it. With games getting better and better looking on the HD consoles, its going to tough choosing the wii when choosing these games.



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Top Spin 3 sold the same on every platform.
Madden sold the same on Wii and PS3 despite the huge discrepance on their opening weeks.
Pro Evolution Soccer sells much less because it's released half a year later.
Wii Sports outsold every other HD sports game ever released /thread.



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trestres said:
Top Spin 3 sold the same on every platform.
Madden sold the same on Wii and PS3 despite the huge discrepance on their opening weeks.
Pro Evolution Soccer sells much less because it's released half a year later.
Wii Sports outsold every other HD sports game ever released /thread.

 

where?

 



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