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Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
bardicverse said:
Pristine20 said:

Every other post on this site, you read about how much "fun" the wii is. But what is fun? Fun is an activity thats "enjoyable". That said, I'd argue that "fun" is entirely subjective and people should stop using the word as a synonym for "wii".

I lost interest in the goofy character model-type games that nintendo seems to focus so much on. There's a wii in my house, it belongs to my little brother but I haven't touched it because there's nothing that interests me. I don't want to join my family playing wii sports upstairs. I'd rather go to my game room (in the basement) and try to get through the intriguing story of Legend of Dragoon.

These days, it seems like I'm weird because I don't want to have "fun". But I find it relaxing and interesting playing through LOD while lying on a bed and would rather play COD4 if I wanted to play with friends. We scream when we die (in the game), laugh when we kill someone else (in the game). Even though it could get frustrating when you keep getting killed (in game), its a sweet frustration and altogether "enjoyable" experience.

So my question to you is: aren't we (my friend' and I) having "fun"? If we are, isn't every console "fun" to its owner? Why do the wii crowd keep tagging the word "fun" like they are the only ones capable of having it? Is it only games with no challenge (wii music) whatsoever that are now "fun"?

Its a generational thing, it seems. From 15-25, people find great delight in killing other people. Go above this crowd, and you won't find people laughing when they kill other people. You guys are the PS generation, you've gone through the past 10-15 years of your life with a Sony machine at the helm. The guys older than this grew up with Atari and Nintendo. To us, fun isn't always so dark. Yet with the PS generation, the only humor/fun is based on dark events. Even the media embraced by you guys has a dark humor to it - Family Guy, Robot Chicken, South Park. Sure, older people get into this too, but its not the ONLY fun. The PS generation is stuck in a situation where its not fun unless someone is getting insulted or physically injured. I probably sound pretty ironic because I dwell in a lot of dark humor myself, but I know that I'm not right in the head, so its different =)

On Wii Music, I will give you that it looks like its aimed for little kids or a bunch of people who wished they were musicians. Music without tempo or rhythm isnt quite music. Of course, I was a music major in college, so Im a little bit of a snob on that issue.  =D

The thing with the Wii is that it focuses on social fun, like going out and playing a game of basketball, having a BBQ, going bowling, etc. Whereas a lot of the "core" titles are designed to be played alone, or over the internet. So I think that the fun elements talked about deal with the social side of gaming, sharing the experience, just like back pl;aying 4 way split screen TimeSplitters 2 or Goldeneye.

 

 

 

The statement in bold is grossly over-generalized. First of all, this is only somewhat true in the US, definitely not Japan or Europe. Problem is, for a gamer like me, the wii fails on all aspects of "fun". For social "fun" with my gamer friends, we play COD4 and for more general fun we go out to clubs, play soccer or some other activities. Wii just doesn't come to mind when we wish to play games. I just want people on these threads to realize that some people also have "fun" gaming WITHOUT the wii.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
Naum said:
Pristine20 said:
facher83 said:
So yeah. Reading the OP, seems like another bait post.

It's simple, really. A lot of the Wii users are "gamers" which stopped playing and buying Video Games past the SNES/Sega era due to the more recent decade of fluffing the gaming market. There are also a lot of current gen gamers, newer ones, that enjoy it as well.

To put it simply, "fun" to far too many people willing to complain about Wii's image is simple a matter of "fun" on Wii not being "cool" enough.


Pick up RE4: Wii edition if you haven't played it before. It's actually very Wii-ized with the controlling.

If you like Baseball, pick up MLB Power Pros (granted, it's also on PS2, but who doesn't make cross-platform games these days? It looks better, anyway). Power Pros is quite an insane game. It's an incredible RPG in terms of stats and upgrading.

Mario Kart is really a game that will stick around for years. I'm sorry, but it was quite fun when my room mates and I (all about 23-24 years old) played a team match through 48 (?) tracks in one sitting.... at the same time seeing how many beers we could chug. That was fun.

Smash Bros. is the same. It will last a long time. You pick it up here and there, and it will pay more for itself in the long run.

Check out "The Conduit" in development.

Square has already landed XBox with their usually PS exclusive title, FF. You can bet Wii will land more games from the giant (more original) as time progresses.

I don't remember if Force Unleashed will have any Wii movement on it... but there is a Star Wars lightsaber dueling game in production.

I don't know, I could go on. Infact, most of us read on the enhanced Wiimote feature coming soon... that will undoubtedly land a bomb shell for FPS games. No cutesie Mii's landing there.

Don't you worry though. Microsoft has already announced and shown how they will get their own avatars on. Gonna call their cutesie little Sim-looking people a reason to degrade the whole system? I think not.

You totally missed the point. i was just trying to point out that some people (like myself) have "fun" with consoles other than the wii.

 

Well then you can understand why "some"( millions probably) of us can have fun with the Wii.

 

Lets just say that this topic was nothing more then flamebait... you know it and we know it.

 

Nobody's arguing that you don't have "fun" with the wii. I was just pointing out that people also have fun on ps360 because most nintendo arguements end up with how the wii brought "fun" back that Sony and M$ abandoned. The thread wasn't meant to be flamebait. It was created to spurn a discussion clarifying the idea that fun is in the mind of the player so no one should make blanket statements about how the wii is more "fun" than its competition.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
mhsillen said:

I own a Wii and I never play it, XBox 360 and PC (even PS3 if I owned one) are just much more appealing to my gaming tastes.

It is "fun" for casual gamers and a younger audience.  Dont expect Nintendo to have the same success with a similar console in the future.  Many "casual gamers" I know who bought a Wii lose interest with it over time, so they wont rush out and pick up a Wii 2 for themselves next generation.  The younger audience will always be there, though, as will Nintendo fans.

I like to compare the original Nintendo with Wii, it was a huge fad sucess when the gaming industry was floundering, but Super Nintendo, N64, and Gamecube showed a continued decline in sales as past Nintendo customers either went elsewhere (Playstation, XBox, PC) or simply didnt participate in later generations.

This is such a condescending post in so many ways, and so wrong.  I have been gaming since 1986 when I bought an NES. I am 48 years old.  I like RPG's and FPS and adventure and sports games. I have a Wii and ps2 and gamecube games. If you don't like the wii then sell the damn thing.  As for the wii being just for casuals and young ones: I am not casual or young but I actually enjoy playing my wii.

 

As for the nes being a fad that is such a brainless comment considering it saved the industry so that the systems today can enjoy success.  I I can't type any more this is such a brainless thread. 

Calling this a "brainless thread" is insulting to the creator, me. I don't think you meant to insult me so please choose your words carefully.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
trestres said:
@OP: Why can't people have fun with the Wii?

This is a 10 year old mentality post. The classic "Mine is better than yours".

You say you have fun with your PS3, why is it strange that other persons may find the Wii fun? If someone doesn't think like you then he/she is automatically wrong? Lol

 

I never said that other people don't find the wii "fun". Please don't misinterpret. I tried to prove that the wii is not the only "fun" console as seems to be the general consensus these days.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

iron_megalith on 19 July 2008

The wii is actually fun. I have fun with some games but I feel if I own it, it wouldn't be as much as fun. Every time I visit my cousin's house we play it and still get off with some fun time.



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irstupid on 19 July 2008

Pristine20 said:

Every other post on this site, you read about how much "fun" sex is. But what is sex? Sex is an activity thats "enjoyable". That said, I'd argue that "sex" is entirely subjective and people should stop using the word as a synonym for "women".

I lost interest in the actual flesh of women that the world seems to focus so much on. There's a girl in my class, but I haven't touched her because there's nothing that interests me. I don't want to go and have sex. I'd rather go to my room (in the basement) and look at internet porn.

These days, it seems like I'm weird because I don't want to have "sex". But I find it relaxing and interesting searching through porn while lying on a bed and would rather watch a live webcam if I wanted to talk to friends. We scream when we she cums (in the cam), laugh when we make a comment about our huge penis (in the chat). Even though it could get frustrating when you start chaffing, its a sweet frustration and altogether "enjoyable" experience.

So my question to you is: aren't we (my friend' and I) having "sex"?

There ya go I fixed your post.

Hmm never been banned before on a site ever.  Oh well, this site pisses me off on how huge a whinners there are.

 

But whiners I can deal with, but the people that are only there to try and make others feel bad about their choice in games.  I believe I can find out if I like something or not, thank you very much.

 

And I guess to answer your post question.  "I have fun when I play games on the Wii, isn't that enough.  Do I really need to defend why I have fun"

 



Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
deathcape said:
this is a weird thread....it really is..the Wii is fun..cuz i can play most of the old games I grew up with...it plays new, revolutionized games of those genres
(lol at the original name: Revolution)

they truly make playing each and every Wii game fun
(not half-assed ports..those suck balls)

if you played any good Wii game of the genere you love, you'd fall in love with it all over again, as if it were your first time..playing SMG made me feel like paying my first 3D mario all over again (SM64)

so....to me it offers the biggest and most diverse collection of games...

same for the DS...it offers the most options...and that's what I want right?

let's take this..

PS3+game= $460

Wii+game+motionplus+game+game+game+game=$450

for new games the Wii is my option...it costs less money to play tons of great games....and the games for DL on the Wii hardly cost anything...($5-$10)

there are so many reasons it can be fun...the ONLY people who REALLY don't like it..are video game haters..or people who have a biased opinion and don't care to try out new things...people with limited imagination

'cause you can not tell me you can't see some awesome games coming out with the Wiimote...that would redefine a genre

Calling non-wii fans "people with limited imagination" is insulting. Nothing can ever appeal to everybody because people aren't bacteria (basically just clones of each other)

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

SmokedHostage on 19 July 2008

The Wii is a gaming machine, and most of these games aren't story-heavy and intriguing which fuels traditional gamers to play more and more. What's so great about the wii is that it doesn't use a traditional controller, making less complicated and therefore more enjoyable for people don't play video games.

If I received a dollar for everytime I heard my mom say "where's the A button." before the Wii, I'd... probably wouldn't be a very rich person because she didn't want to play again because of the controller. At least with the wii, the controls are simple because they require actions that are done in real life, therefore simple to most.

Whether or not the Wii can be called "fun" for people can't be truly be determined but for the most part, normal people seem to enjoy it.

Not everyone wants an extensive story with realistic graphics, it's more about being able to PLAY foremost.



Pixel Art can be fun.

IllegalPaladin on 19 July 2008

I haven't really played a lot of serious Wii games, but the party games are what's fun about it for me. It's required playing with one or more people, but getting a group playing Wii Sports is what I've found the most enjoyable from the Wii.

@SmokedHostage

"If I received a dollar for everytime I heard my mom say "where's the A button." before the Wii, I'd... probably wouldn't be a very rich person because she didn't want to play again because of the controller. At least with the wii, the controls are simple because they require actions that are done in real life, therefore simple to most."

I don't know, more casual gamers (including my parents) I've had to instruct on how to use the Wii controller with asked that question a lot. I'll agree that motion gestures and less buttons would probably be easier to remember, but I haven't had the same success as you. My mom has a habit of apparently letting go of B or "That trigger button" when she plays bowling in Wii Sports.



Pristine20 on 19 July 2008
irstupid said:

Pristine20 said:

Every other post on this site, you read about how much "fun" sex is. But what is sex? Sex is an activity thats "enjoyable". That said, I'd argue that "sex" is entirely subjective and people should stop using the word as a synonym for "women".

I lost interest in the actual flesh of women that the world seems to focus so much on. There's a girl in my class, but I haven't touched her because there's nothing that interests me. I don't want to go and have sex. I'd rather go to my room (in the basement) and look at internet porn.

These days, it seems like I'm weird because I don't want to have "sex". But I find it relaxing and interesting searching through porn while lying on a bed and would rather watch a live webcam if I wanted to talk to friends. We scream when we she cums (in the cam), laugh when we make a comment about our huge penis (in the chat). Even though it could get frustrating when you start chaffing, its a sweet frustration and altogether "enjoyable" experience.

So my question to you is: aren't we (my friend' and I) having "sex"?

There ya go I fixed your post.

Hmm never been banned before on a site ever.  Oh well, this site pisses me off on how huge a whinners there are.

 

But whiners I can deal with, but the people that are only there to try and make others feel bad about their choice in games.  I believe I can find out if I like something or not, thank you very much.

 

Why the sexual innuendo? You think girls are my problem? You really need to bring your girlfriend around me lol. Lets not even go there. I play games in my basement because I like the peace and quiet sometimes especially after a hard day's work. It doesn't mean I don't socialize. You just might be banned for that kind of content. I won't be reporting you though because I really don't care. I've never been banned. There's a reason for that: I make sensible posts.

How did I make you feel bad about your gaming preferences? The wii can't take any criticism because it is perfect right? I didn't even mean to criticize the wii. The thread was only meant to give recognition to other consoles as well.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler