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psrock on 18 May 2008
ToastyJaguar said:
Third parties like epic games won't make games for the Wii, because devs like them now that it is very hard for them to make money on the Wii. Nintendo is the only dev making good money on the Wii.

So you don't have to worry about third parties giving up on HD consoles because it will never happen.

third parties like money and they will go wherever ther's more to be made. Trust me, with the wii growing at such a pace, better the ps2, it would mean suicide not to jump ship. This is nothing new, all third parties left the dreamcast, xbox, and gamecube alone and the ps2 got all the games.



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psrock on 18 May 2008
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
we all know, the wii will be getting the third parties on the side very soon, however, i am worried about what types of games they are going throw at the consoles.
why spend 10 million dollars doing a epic game when you can spend 500k on a party game and sell millions. That's what i am worried about.

Like others have said, the party games will becom saturated. Think of the wii as the ds. The ds started with crappy support ,but sold well. Nintendos first few games were casual, but then they stopped and started to make more and more hardcore games. Third Party casual games started to stop selling because it was saturated. Then more and more hardcore games came, and now look at the support the Ds is getting for 08. The wii i believe will follow the same path.

that's interesting : what are the top ds games to date, maybe that will help? i really dont follow the ds as much, but arent the brain games the top sellers.

 


 Here are the top selling ds games. Most of them are nintendo. http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=DS&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Sales 

But does that matter. Look the list of games the ds is getting http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=19388.  


that did not help one bit.

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sc94597 on 18 May 2008

@PSrock It seems to me that you like all of the "Mature" games that have been here since the ps1. Try playing some snes and genesis games. You will see that those games were great, but after the ps1 came you didn't really see too many of them. In exchange you got a new way to game and good games too, but in no way was it the end. Now we will get new games once third parties focus on the wii , but that doesn't mean they will be bad.



sc94597 on 18 May 2008
psrock said:
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
we all know, the wii will be getting the third parties on the side very soon, however, i am worried about what types of games they are going throw at the consoles.
why spend 10 million dollars doing a epic game when you can spend 500k on a party game and sell millions. That's what i am worried about.

Like others have said, the party games will becom saturated. Think of the wii as the ds. The ds started with crappy support ,but sold well. Nintendos first few games were casual, but then they stopped and started to make more and more hardcore games. Third Party casual games started to stop selling because it was saturated. Then more and more hardcore games came, and now look at the support the Ds is getting for 08. The wii i believe will follow the same path.

that's interesting : what are the top ds games to date, maybe that will help? i really dont follow the ds as much, but arent the brain games the top sellers.

 


Here are the top selling ds games. Most of them are nintendo. http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=DS&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Sales

But does that matter. Look the list of games the ds is getting http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=19388.


 

that did not help one bit.

How so? Just because those games aren't"mature" doesn't mean they aren't good games. 



psrock on 18 May 2008
sc94597 said:
@PSrock It seems to me that you like all of the "Mature" games that have been here since the ps1. Try playing some snes and genesis games. You will see that those games were great, but after the ps1 came you didn't really see too many of them. In exchange you got a new way to game and good games too, but in no way was it the end. Now we will get new games once third parties focus on the wii , but that doesn't mean they will be bad.

i might try that once i can get a hold of a wii, but i guess the playstation also killed many hardcore games as well.

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FJ-Warez on 18 May 2008

Yes they are going in the right direction, and no, the hardcore games are not going to die, but they are going to go to a better path...



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psrock on 18 May 2008

there's not one game on that list interest me, not one.



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sc94597 on 18 May 2008
RolStoppable said:
psrock said:
there's not one game on that list interest me, not one.

Well, the lists only show million sellers. It's still odd though, that you aren't interested in at least a couple of these games. But consider that games don't have to sell that many copies to be considered successes on the DS and Wii.

For example, each of the two Castlevania games on the DS has sold about half a million, but that was enough for Konami to make a third game for the DS. No More Heroes on the Wii came nowhere close to selling a million, but the publisher of the game was still very satisfied with the sales of the game.

After taking a look at your games collection, the problem we have here is pretty obvious. The games you like simply haven't been made for the Wii yet. Nintendo doesn't make these types of games and 3rd parties didn't bother to make them as of now, at least not with serious efforts. But lately it looks like 3rd parties are starting to aim for M-rated games on the Wii with for example The Conduit and Mad World. They wouldn't make these games if they didn't believe that they can sell.

JRPGs are also underway, so we'll some results in the latter half of 2008.


I think he is talking about the list of 2008 ds games. If he doesn't seem interested in any of those games, then he has to try out new games. He just narrows himself to games that are "mature" and doesn't look pass that. I've seen a few rpgs in his collectin so the Dragon Quest Games Final Fantasy IV ASh Tales of Innocence,etc look like games he would like, but I guess not.

psrock on 18 May 2008
RolStoppable said:
psrock said:
there's not one game on that list interest me, not one.

Well, the lists only show million sellers. It's still odd though, that you aren't interested in at least a couple of these games. But consider that games don't have to sell that many copies to be considered successes on the DS and Wii.

For example, each of the two Castlevania games on the DS has sold about half a million, but that was enough for Konami to make a third game for the DS. No More Heroes on the Wii came nowhere close to selling a million, but the publisher of the game was still very satisfied with the sales of the game.

After taking a look at your games collection, the problem we have here is pretty obvious. The games you like simply haven't been made for the Wii yet. Nintendo doesn't make these types of games and 3rd parties didn't bother to make them as of now, at least not with serious efforts. But lately it looks like 3rd parties are starting to aim for M-rated games on the Wii with for example The Conduit and Mad World. They wouldn't make these games if they didn't believe that they can sell.

JRPGs are also underway, so we'll some results in the latter half of 2008.


mad world looks like a game i would get , it looks very intersting too. I loved the preview video.

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rudyrsr8 on 18 May 2008

The market is trying to find a balance between hardcore and casual games at the moment and dont worry there will always be hardcore games.



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