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Wii is doing very well. Xbox 360 and PS3 lack in sales. Before Wii and PS3 came on the market 360 was doing OK. Since Wii launched last year 360 can't build up momentum. This gives PS3 the time to build up their Home/PSN, implant rumble, good games enz.

After Wii sloms down in sales over 2009. PS3 can easily take over 360 sales, because they both sucked during Wii mometum.

Right or Wrong?



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Hype? You think the Wii is merely hype? It's a revolution (which explains the code name: Revolution), and the so called "hype" wont be over.



Well I don't think Wii will be dead by the end of 2009, honestly I still think it will do well. I only think sales will decrease after 2009. 1st party is too strong (Nintendo) Wii has video games, but Most anticipated games are 360/PS3. The point of this thread is PS3 beats 360 thanks to Wii. The Wii will still be first place at the end of this Generation.



Fractal of Time said:

This gives PS3 the time to build up their Home/PSN, implant rumble, good games enz.


I fail to see which of those things will give the PS3 an advantage over the 360... I think the PS3 better start selling better soon if it wants to win... 2009 will be too late.



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1st of all: What wii hype?! Wii will last, just look at point 3... Nintendo games!

2nd: Why will the Wii die in 2009?! Because of lacking graphics?! The masses don't think it's graphics are bad! They don't mind and they couldn't care less! The graphics are good enough!

3th: Nintendo's own games can keep a platform viable for 5 years (Gamecube).

 

Point is: You're wrong. U ain't haven't seen nothin yet! Wii 4 the win!



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I'm pretty positive Wii will no fade, but I also see that once PS3 and 360 break the price barrier (no need to sell at 100 even if Wii can possibly reach that point, but just below 300, ideally 200) market share will change. Who will be stronger then? I don't know. PS3 has superior hardware and provided 3rd parties don't leave, the richest/most varied future catalog. BUT, if the brutal anti-sony campaign that most media are feeding keeps on projecting such a powerful shadow over PS3 future and doesn't slow down, then I see PS3 following the fate of the Concorde. To avoid being so dramatic, a simillar situation as with the Atari ST and the Amiga could happen: the second one was a much better value, but it costed more, and most games were done in the inferior platform (ST) and the ported to Amiga. From the Wikipedia (it makes me sad to remember this happened and angry seeing it can happen again): ... From the Amiga's introduction in late 1985 , through to the early 1990s, Amiga games were developed in parallel with the Atari ST as both machines utilized the Motorola 68000 CPU. The Atari ST was, by default the industry's primary focus for 16-bit games development because it initially had a larger user base than the Amiga. Additionally, developers found it easier to develop for, and it was easier to port from ST to Amiga than the other way. This was due in part to the ST's minimalist hardware design, which consisted of the 68000 CPU which controlled a bitmapped framebuffer chip called Shifter. The ST's graphics hardware was similar to previous computers, such as the Apple II or ZX Spectrum, which made the transition to 16-bit easier. In contrast, the Amiga uses 2 chips to form it's graphics hardware, making it a more complex architecture than previous generation of computers. This made programming the Amiga a harder task in comparison to the conventional design of the ST.[citation needed] A major proportion of games developed from 1985 to 1988 were written specifically for ST, then converted to the Amiga. As a result, many Amiga games of this period were, in most cases, identical to the ST version. These games were usually called "straight ports" and did not utilize Amiga specific features, such as the blitter and hardware sprites (useful for animations), copper (useful for raster effects) and superior color capabilities (the Amiga has larger color palette and can display more colors at the same time). Additionally, games that did not make use of the Amiga's hardware often ran slower on the Amiga because the ST's CPU was clocked slightly higher at 8 MHz verses the Amiga's 7.09 MHz. This went against the Amiga's design philosophy of using hardware acceleration to reduce the load on the CPU. The only major difference in these games were apparent in audio effects and in-game music. The Amiga used digitally sampled audio for realistic sound and music, while ST used a Programmable Sound Generator, which were used in older 8-bit computers. Ported games were perhaps an unfortunate development for the Amiga. Games ported from the ST were often superior on the ST, which made the Amiga look worse if one used those games to compare the systems. This and the Amiga's higher price contributed to the Atari ST gaining more market share. ------------------------ The similarity to this gen situation is scary. It also helped atari the spread rumour that Amigas crashed and had "viruses". Both did, but it boosted Atari sales at the beggining.



yeah the price is the main factor, with such a high price point ps3 is doing ok im my point of view practically no one can afford a gaming system at that price and thats what the ps3 his in its essence a gaming system the multimedia hub sony wants to push down our thoughts is still some years away and bluray is a flop in the ps3 at the moment



I suggest you analyse both the Playstation and Gameboy in order to understand why a comeback for either the PS3 or XBox 360 is unlikely.

Even late in their life (when these systems faced competition from amazingly powerful hardware) they continued to sell really well because the momentium they built early on ensured strong support from third party developers.



StarcraftManiac said:

1st of all: What wii hype?! Wii will last, just look at point 3... Nintendo games!

2nd: Why will the Wii die in 2009?! Because of lacking graphics?! The masses don't think it's graphics are bad! They don't mind and they couldn't care less! The graphics are good enough!

3th: Nintendo's own games can keep a platform viable for 5 years (Gamecube).

 

Point is: You're wrong. U ain't haven't seen nothin yet! Wii 4 the win!


1. I used wrong words, sorry for that. Wii will do very well, it will last for sure but not at a top selling rate after 2009.

2. Will will get price wise competition from 360 and PS3. 14-35 years walk into a wallmart. Look at the backside of a game (seeing the backside of the case with CGI pics) Hey this looks great, it must be a good game.

3. Nintendo has a big fanbase. NGC 25 mln = Nintendo Games. Ofcourse they are pulling out some Non-gamer Games like Wii Degree. So How many non-gamers also 25mln? Or much more. 



Well, "after 2009" is 2010, and that will be after four Christmas sales periods for the Wii. It's not big prediction to say a fifth year old system will have sales slowing down. I don't mean to sound rude, but all these anti-Wii forecasts are so silly. Nintendo is doing great, good for them! My fear, and I have a PS3 along with a Wii, is that the two graphic-power systems become more like NEO GEO's than eventual throne takers. That's MS and Sony's fault, not Nintendo's.