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Intrinsic said:
The only team I have an issue with is polyphony digital. Sony has to get that studio in line. 7 years and all w got was GT sport. And be rest assured GT7 won't come before 2024 if we are lucky.

All the other studios can be excused, they were either transitioning from mobile to console development, helping in other side project or at least released something else (eg MM also released tearaway).

I love GT to bits, ut their output is ridiculously poor. No reason there can be 7 forza games to the one GT game.

To be fair, PD released GT6 late in the PS3's life cycle, when it should have been a PS4 launch title. 



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I'm happy with what Sony have made this gen, most were much better quality than last gen. But yes most of those studios could use a second team or increase the 1 team they have. GT can be one game per gen with free DLC frequently.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

MM for one has spent too long, they could have made LBP 4 & 5 in that time 😋



I wonder if the San Diego Studio will do anything else besides annual MLB games?



I mean both SSM and GG stated that they want to make games faster (2-3 years) so there is that.



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FloatingWaffles said:
Intrinsic said:
The only team I have an issue with is polyphony digital. Sony has to get that studio in line. 7 years and all w got was GT sport. And be rest assured GT7 won't come before 2024 if we are lucky.

All the other studios can be excused, they were either transitioning from mobile to console development, helping in other side project or at least released something else (eg MM also released tearaway).

I love GT to bits, ut their output is ridiculously poor. No reason there can be 7 forza games to the one GT game.

To be fair, the Forza games have two developers that can help each other at least (Turn 10 and Playground Games), which probably significantly helps as to why they can get them out so fast. Also where are you getting the 7 years from? It was less than 4 years between GT6 (December 2013) and GT Sport (October 2017).

Thats not an excuse, PD has a employee size of over 170 people to tun 10s 100. And even if turn 10 has another 100+ people helping them on the odd year that doesn't mean PDs output should be so poor.

And I never said it took 7 years between GT6 nd GT sport. I said in 7 years (from the release of the PS4 in 2013 to when its being replaced in 2020) all we got was GT sport. So yes, in 7yrs all they did was make one game. At least SSM did more than release just GOW. They also worked on a number of indie projects and remasters.

And the worst part about this,is that its ot like because they have been working on GT7 since 2017 it means we will see it in 2020 (3 years) or 2021 (4 years).No,we will be lucky if we see it by 2022... my money is actually in 2023 at the earliest. And even after such long development cycles they still somehow mange to release "incomplete" games. They were either rehashing models from previous gens without interiors, or releasing with their smallest number of cars and tracks since GT3. Yes they have added a ton via DLC but still...

I have bought and played every single GT game out there, I am a die hard fan... but I am sorry, thy have been fucking up for a while now.

PotentHerbs said:
Intrinsic said:
The only team I have an issue with is polyphony digital. Sony has to get that studio in line. 7 years and all w got was GT sport. And be rest assured GT7 won't come before 2024 if we are lucky.

All the other studios can be excused, they were either transitioning from mobile to console development, helping in other side project or at least released something else (eg MM also released tearaway).

I love GT to bits, ut their output is ridiculously poor. No reason there can be 7 forza games to the one GT game.

To be fair, PD released GT6 late in the PS3's life cycle, when it should have been a PS4 launch title. 

Doesn't really matter. 

Don't get me wrong,I get they have supported the release of GT sport massively post launch (adding over 100 cars and more tracks. I get that they are pushing this model of us only needing one GT game that an be built on... but still. As I said, My real issue here is that we will not see GT7 anytime soon. I GT7 was to come in 2021/2022 I wouldn't be that bummed. But no... just watch it come in 2023/2024.



Can you do a list like this for Ninty? I'm curious but also busy and lazy



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Considering the results of this gen, I think Sony knows what it is doing with its studios. High quality titles take time. And at least at the end of that wait, Sony's studios almost always deliver the goods, unlike some companies I know of.



Idk what dirt Yamauchi has on Sony execs but it must be substantial for him to remain atop Polyphony even with the shit job they’ve done with Gran Turismo. Amazing that Evolution can be shit canned after Driveclub but PD remains.

This thread just reminds me of how safe Sony has played it this gen compared to PS3 and PS2.



SpokenTruth said:
Eagle367 said:
Can you do a list like this for Ninty? I'm curious but also busy and lazy

I think I've seen one for each of the 3 platform holders recently. I'll track them down soon and PM them to you.

For the record, I think all 3 platform holders keep some studios on the side for tool work, code work, code work, etc...and it throws us off when they switch between making a game (name on game) and making code (name not on game).

Thanks. And I can see how that affects companies. We haven't heard anything from retro for example



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