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JWeinCom said:
SpokenTruth said:

So a women's health practitioner would be discriminating against men if they refused male genital clients?

Sadly very true and exceptionally messed up. This is a male looking for attention, openly admits to wanting to have sex with underage girls because they are 'tighter', and is doing far more harm to the LGBTQ community than any other activist I know of right now.

THe only reason it's doing damage to the LBGTQ community is because when you're in a minority, your actions are assumed to represent the whole group.  Don't get me wrong, this person is fucked up, but if it was a white non-trans person in a similar situation, you wouldn't assess all white males based on that.  You'd just say it's a fucked up person.  But because it's a trans they're doing damage to their whole community as if they're representative of that.

It's not doing damage to the LBGTQ community because this person is a member or claims to be a member of this group to start 16 lawsuits, it is an issue for the community as a whole because this person is waving the LBGTQ flag as a weapon in their predatory attacks on business's where he feels that he can use it to create controversy like this, this person isn't interested in the rights of LBGTQ people in the slightest, he is just taking the rights which are being put in place and then championing them in extreme cases to the point where he knows there will be issues, such as going into under age girls only swimming pools to be naked near little girls with his big unwaxed dong waving around.

The reason it does damage to the community is because he is claiming to be an activist for them but really he is an activist for himself and like I said, he's just waving their flag to see what possible worst case scenarios he can come up with to abuse those rights which LGBTQ people have fought for and won, this is the equivilent of someone playing out those what if scenarios that people always claim when there is a vote to bring in something like Same Sex marriage, this person is the guy who has gone out and gotten a cat to marry a dog to just see if it would wind people up, but far more dangerous is that he is attacking business's and small kids while waving that flag as his protection and right to do so.

He is the vocal worst case scenario that people will point too when LGBTQ rights are raised for debate, because no one wants to be forced into trying to perform a vasectomy on a vagina or give this guys penis a cervical smear test to avoid a lawsuit.



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Somewhat related, but seeing articles every so often, such as one about a transgender person winning multiple gold medals and qualifying for the olympics in weight lifting in Australia. The person used to be part of the mens weight lifting team, but identified as a woman four years ago.

Seeing some about high school runners, cyclists, ect. Lots of women upset and saying it is unfair and they shouldn't be allowed.



irstupid said:
Somewhat related, but seeing articles every so often, such as one about a transgender person winning multiple gold medals and qualifying for the olympics in weight lifting in Australia. The person used to be part of the mens weight lifting team, but identified as a woman four years ago.

Seeing some about high school runners, cyclists, ect. Lots of women upset and saying it is unfair and they shouldn't be allowed.

Texas had an issue over two years running now because that state forces people to compete as their birth cert says, so when a girl took a ton of male hormones to make a transition to look like a guy she was pushed into fighting other girls still in wrestling... which she of course won due in part to the massive hormone therapy as it controls muscular growth.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/25/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-wins-texas-girls-title

Dominates the fights where the other girl doesn't just forfit for fear of injury.

Cases like this will increase until they meet at something like the Olympics and a set of internation rules on the subject will have to be drawn up over them.



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DonFerrari said:
KLAMarine said:

Has a dick too

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But is a woman =]

I need two X chromosomes. Otherwise not a woman.

I'm a biologist.



KLAMarine said:
DonFerrari said:

But is a woman =]

I need two X chromosomes. Otherwise not a woman.

I'm a biologist.

What would you do in social contexts where blood tests are unavailable or impractical? What is your basis for every day use?

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LMAO how his scrotum allowed and not asshole



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DonFerrari said:
KLAMarine said:

Has a dick too

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But is a woman =]

According to transgender people gender isn't defined by biology, but rather by arbitrary features that are in no way unique to the gender they represent, which is a much more sensible definition.



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Its weird how many people dont get that a tolerant society should not tolerate intolerance. Yes, that is part of the concept.
Having that said, is this particular case even a matter of discrimination? From the looks of it, its rather simple: a service provider was asked to perform a service it doesnt provide (never), and therefore said service was refused. Which is fine.



Torillian said:
KLAMarine said:

I need two X chromosomes. Otherwise not a woman.

I'm a biologist.

What would you advise for the use of man and woman in social contexts where blood tests are unavailable or impractical? 

What the person looks like, or in situations like the OP, what the genitals of the person are. Think of the bathroom situation people bring up. If a guy looks like a girl and goes into the womans bathroom and just does his business, no on bats and eye. If a guy that looks like a guy goes into the girls bathroom and does his business, people would freak out, or at the very least look at him weird, ask him questions, ect. Both the occupants and him would be annoyed/awkward in that situation. Vise-Versa. 

Do you guys remember the movie Step Brothers? Whenever I hear people constantly going on about what they are, always make me think of their dad going about how he wanted to be a t-rex.

I'm with Biology. Your DNA determines your sex. End of story. Anything beyond that is a mental disorder. Now it's a mental disorder that isn't a danger to anyone and nothing wrong with it, but its a disorder, IMO. Everything in your entire genetics/DNA point to you being a male or female and you believe otherwise. That is a mental disorder. End of story. If you were studying an animal, that is what determines it.

And what is it that makes a guy believe he is a girl? Does he just like doing girl things? Wearing girl clothes? Likes boys, ect. Who cares. Dress how you want, like who you want, do what you want, but nothing changes the fact you have XY chromosome and a penis between your legs. You are not a girl. They just want to be a girl cause all the things they like are associated with being a girl and thus they believe they must be or want to become one so that it fits their likes. They need to just accept who they are not care that boys shouldn't like dolls. 



vivster said:
DonFerrari said:

But is a woman =]

According to transgender people gender isn't defined by biology, but rather by arbitrary features that are in no way unique to the gender they represent, which is a much more sensible definition.

so essentially there's no difference between men and women since as you say any distinguishing features between the two are just arbitrary?

in the case of this business would you rather the ownr have advertised her services for "menstruators" for example instead of women?