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Very interested to see how Dragon Quest 11 S performs on Switch.

It's a very late port, but it's one of the most popular franchises in the Japan, and now on nation's platform of choice.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 19 July 2019

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Megiddo said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Nintendo has begun it's domination of Japan. Is there any doubt that at least 90% of Japanese games are coming to Switch over the next few years? It's going to be their sole dominant platform.

There is a huge amount of doubt until Japanese gamers show that they are willing to buy full price retail Switch games from publishers other than Nintendo.

20k for God Eater 3 is pathetic even for it being a late port. YW4 sales were miserable. Other than Minecraft which sells on pretty much everything there has yet to be any major standout third party title on the Switch, so why would third party publishers want to focus on the Switch if the audience isn't buying their games in even slightly impressive quantities?

You don't think Dragon Quest 11 S will sell well?  How could it not?



The_Liquid_Laser said:
Megiddo said:

There is a huge amount of doubt until Japanese gamers show that they are willing to buy full price retail Switch games from publishers other than Nintendo.

20k for God Eater 3 is pathetic even for it being a late port. YW4 sales were miserable. Other than Minecraft which sells on pretty much everything there has yet to be any major standout third party title on the Switch, so why would third party publishers want to focus on the Switch if the audience isn't buying their games in even slightly impressive quantities?

You don't think Dragon Quest 11 S will sell well?  How could it not?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it underperformed to some degree.  Not because there's no audience for DQ on Nintendo platforms, the 3DS release did great.  It's just that t's more than two years late.  Should still do well, but any comparisons to the PS4 release will need to be done with the extenuating circumstances in mind.



Nuvendil said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

You don't think Dragon Quest 11 S will sell well?  How could it not?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it underperformed to some degree.  Not because there's no audience for DQ on Nintendo platforms, the 3DS release did great.  It's just that t's more than two years late.  Should still do well, but any comparisons to the PS4 release will need to be done with the extenuating circumstances in mind.

What would underperforming look like in terms of sales numbers?  Considering it has sold to both the PS4 and 3DS previously, what would be "on par" or "below par" or "above par"?



FYI, here is a list of the top 30 games this week from Famitsu.
https://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/japan-famitsu-sales-for-week-28-2019-july-8th-july-14th/

In the top 30, you get this distribution of games:

NSW - 20
PS4 - 9
3DS - 1

If you break them down by first and third party, then it looks like this:

NSW, 1st - 11
NSW, 3rd - 9
PS4, 1st - 2
PS4, 3rd - 7
3DS, 1st - 1

There are 9 Switch third party games in the top 30, while the PS4 only has 7.  That means that third party companies are better off releasing their games on the Switch right now.  Some might be Switch exclusives and some might get a release on both Switch and PS4.  Either way, these third party companies are benefiting from releasing on Switch right now.  I say this because the install base for PS4 and Switch are roughly the same in Japan and there are 11 Switch first party games on the list.  In spite of all of this, there are still more Switch third party titles on the list than PS4 third party titles.

Going forward, Switch install base is going to shoot far ahead of PS4 in Japan.  Why wouldn't Japanese companies want their games on the Switch?  Of course they would!  There should be no reason to doubt.  Over the next few years expect 90%+ of Japanese games to get a version on the Switch.  Switch is by far the dominant platform and third party games are already selling well.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

There are 9 Switch third party games in the top 30, while the PS4 only has 7.  That means that third party companies are better off releasing their games on the Switch right now.

No... that's not what it means. God Eater 3 just launched on Switch so is one of those 9 games in the top 30. Just as Yokai Watch 4 released recently.

If a bunch of third party games released on PS4 next month they'd have a high number of releases in the top 30, doesn't mean it is better than the Switch as a platform for third parties, it just means it's had new releases.

The better example would be sales of specific games that launched simultaneously on both platforms.

Attack on Titan 2 - PS4: 20.2k  NSW: 25.8k

Anyway as they're third parties and both platforms are performing well in terms of games sales, Japanese Developers are better off releasing their games on both platforms.



Predictions (Made July 2019)

LTD: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m       2019 : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m        2020: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)


Barkley said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

There are 9 Switch third party games in the top 30, while the PS4 only has 7.  That means that third party companies are better off releasing their games on the Switch right now.

No... that's not what it means. God Eater 3 just launched on Switch so is one of those 9 games in the top 30. Just as Yokai Watch 4 released recently.

If a bunch of third party games released on PS4 next month they'd have a high number of releases in the top 30, doesn't mean it is better than the Switch as a platform for third parties, it just means it's had new releases.

The better example would be sales of specific games that launched simultaneously on both platforms.

Attack on Titan 2 - PS4: 20.2k  NSW: 25.8k

Anyway as they're third parties and both platforms are performing well in terms of games sales, Japanese Developers are better off releasing their games on both platforms.

My arguement is that going forward most games are going to get a Switch version.  You are countering that by saying that Switch already is goetting a lot of releases.  Your arguement is actually proving my point, not contradicting it.



Japanese 3rd party support for Switch is bad and they have themselves to blame.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Barkley said:

No... that's not what it means. God Eater 3 just launched on Switch so is one of those 9 games in the top 30. Just as Yokai Watch 4 released recently.

If a bunch of third party games released on PS4 next month they'd have a high number of releases in the top 30, doesn't mean it is better than the Switch as a platform for third parties, it just means it's had new releases.

The better example would be sales of specific games that launched simultaneously on both platforms.

Attack on Titan 2 - PS4: 20.2k  NSW: 25.8k

Anyway as they're third parties and both platforms are performing well in terms of games sales, Japanese Developers are better off releasing their games on both platforms.

My arguement is that going forward most games are going to get a Switch version.  You are countering that by saying that Switch already is goetting a lot of releases.  Your arguement is actually proving my point, not contradicting it.

The only point I was arguing against is what I quoted.



Predictions (Made July 2019)

LTD: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m       2019 : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m        2020: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)


Marth said:
Japanese 3rd party support for Switch is bad and they have themselves to blame.

This 100%. If things never change, I will always wonder what if Japanese companies were contempt enough to support Switch