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Does this affect your decision to get the game?

No, still hyped. 24 39.34%
 
Yes, hype gone, not buying. 10 16.39%
 
Eh, I don't like this but will wait and see. 10 16.39%
 
Eh, I hate this, but will get it anyway. 13 21.31%
 
Wasn't getting it from the start. 4 6.56%
 
Total:61

You read that right. Not only is there no National Dex in S/S, you will not be able to transfer Pokemon not in the Galar Pokedex forward to S/S, they will not be usable.

"During Nintendo’s Treehouse Live presentation at E3, Nintendo shared an important detail about transferring Pokémon to Pokémon Sword and Shield. Not all Pokémon — and there are more than 800 species at this point — in your collection can be transferred into this year’s Switch sequel.

The recently announced Pokémon Home cloud app, as well as the Pokémon Bank service, let players keep a collection of Pokémon that they could transfer between games and titles. This made the experience of catching ’em all a little less ephemeral, as you had a way to put your library of Pokémon buddies on your mobile device.

However, the new Pokémon Sword and Shield games won’t be able to fully benefit from your collection. You’ll be able to share transfer Sword and Shield Pokémon back and forth withPokémon Home next year, but importing Pokémon will work differently; only Pokémon in the Galar region Pokédex will be able to be imported from Pokémon Home into Sword and Shield.

Producer Junichi Masuda said at E3 that the developers spent “a lot of time thinking about what the best way to move forward was” as the Pokédex grows and grows.

He noted that since there are now “well over 800 Pokémon species in the game”, and the Switch’s hardware quality made it easier for them all to be unique and expressive, the designers had to balance importing as many Pokémon as possible and updating them to these high standards while still keeping development deadlines. The team discussed many options, but finally decided to only allow Galar region Pokémon to be imported.

Gameplay balance was another concern; with so many Pokémon and potential combos, opening the roster up to the full 800-plus list of Pokémon could prove problematic for competitive play.

Masuda said that the team spent a lot of time making sure that there would be a good mix of Pokémon in the Galar region. Not only are we seeing some familiar faces in Sword and Shield, but there are also lots of new friends, like the perfect sheep Pokémon Wooloo.

Masuda didn’t say how many Pokémon will appear in the Galar region Pokédex, but it sounds like everything from the Pokémon Let’s Go games (the original 151 and Alolan region variations) will appear in Pokémon Sword and Shield."
From Polygon and Serebii

This is easily one of the worst decisions Game Freak has ever made. They made the models on the 3DS HD so that they were future proof and they are using them for SS, yet they're too lazy to even add the ability to transfer them into the game and make up a bunch of bullshit about 'balancing'. If your favourite doesn't make the dex, you're shit out of luck, you can't even bring it over to use in the post-game or for breeding. As far as these games are concerned, they may as well not exist.

I really don't fucking understand why GF has to keep shooting themselves in the foot, development needs to be taken off them, they have no fucking idea what they're doing.

Pokemon - Gotta' Catch some of 'em, I guess.

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Kind of understandable the difficulties they face: the list of Pokemon just keeps growing. Still hoping some of the more popular Pokemon can be transferred.

Do not deny me my Gardevoir!



Yeah, this predictably isn't going down well with the core fans. Yeah the millions and millions of casual fans will roll with it, but this could quickly become a very loud complaint.

The most foolish part of how this was announced was not telling us how many that entails or giving any assurances on what kind of selection we are getting. That will determine a lot of how much this stings. And it would be wise to merge in the National Dex via patch es and updates later on.



Excuses. All of that.

They think the models for the Pokemon are of high standards? Are they on drugs? Even Compile Heart has surpassed them in quality 3D models with 3% of the budget.



Just confirming - all gen I Pokemon are available in game. This is fucking shit, I love those Pokemon but fucking enough. Fucking enough. Charizard for the 5000th fucking time is just infuriating, I hate it now.

I can see it already, my favourites like Linoone, Maractus, Sigilyph, Trubbish and Whiscash are all gone. Complete fucking shit. I am struggling with understanding this shit

mZuzek said:
Mega Evolutions and Z-moves were also removed.

Now, there's a side of me that wants to be fine with that information - if every generation is gonna have its own gimmick, I'd rather they keep their gimmicks to themselves instead of going on forever -, but really, not having Mega Evolutions is never a good thing.

Just fucking inane. I don't care about Z-moves at all, but megas at least were upgrades that otherwise forgotten older 'mon needed. Cutting out something like that doesn't sit well with me at all.

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RingoGaSuki said:
Just confirming - all gen I Pokemon are available in game. This is fucking shit, I love those Pokemon but fucking enough. Fucking enough. Charizard for the 5000th fucking time is just infuriating, I hate it now.

I can see it already, my favourites like Linoone, Maractus, Sigilyph, Trubbish and Whiscash are all gone. Complete fucking shit. I am struggling with understanding this shit

Game Freak is unambitious, underskilled, Lazy developers. What is there to struggle with?



Wait until you see the regional dex. X/Y had over 450 Poke'mon in the game (Not counting Megas). There's a lot of Poke'mon that I'm sure nobody will miss like Zigazoon, a lot of UU Poke's, and Legendaries. Then there's all the Pokemon that fill the same role as Poke'mon from previous gens. Like Conkledurr and Machamp.

Also, there's no reason why they can't slowly patch the rest in over a year.



mZuzek said:
RingoGaSuki said:

I can see it already, my favourites like Linoone, Maractus, Sigilyph, Trubbish and Whiscash are all gone. Complete fucking shit. I am struggling with understanding this shit

How the hell are the likes of Maractus, Trubbish and Whiscash your favorites?

Xxain said:

Game Freak is unambitious, underskilled, Lazy developers. What is there to struggle with?

That, despite knowing and expecting this kind of crap, people are right to demand more from a 15m+ seller franchise.

For me, its looking at developers like Compile Heart, Atlus, Nippon Ichi, Gust grow and evolve at a fast pace with less than a 3rd of budget of a Pokemon game and less than 10% of its sales, and Game Freak, for some reason, is producing a quality level of a game that feels like them a generation ago. 



On the bright side the Smogon Meta post Sword/Shield should be interesting. No more overused Legendaries like Landorus or Heatran. No more megas with borderline gamebreaking effects. And hopefully no more Rotom. Rotom is flat out busted and on almost every damned team. I'll be happy as hell if he doens't make it in.



mZuzek said:
RingoGaSuki said:

I can see it already, my favourites like Linoone, Maractus, Sigilyph, Trubbish and Whiscash are all gone. Complete fucking shit. I am struggling with understanding this shit

How the hell are the likes of Maractus, Trubbish and Whiscash your favorites?

Maractus, Sigilyph and Trubbish were my crutches in my first runthrough of B/W, Trubbish saved me against the electric gym, Sigilyph crushed most of Team Plasma for me, and Maractus singlehandedly took down the E4.

Whiscash - was my first shiny, I still have my original Whiscash from sixteen years ago kicking around in my Bank. I love that goofy bastard.

shikamaru317 said:
RingoGaSuki said:

Just confirming - all gen I Pokemon are available in game. This is fucking shit, I love those Pokemon but fucking enough. Fucking enough. Charizard for the 5000th fucking time is just infuriating, I hate it now.

I can see it already, my favourites like Linoone, Maractus, Sigilyph, Trubbish and Whiscash are all gone. Complete fucking shit. I am struggling with understanding this shit

Just fucking inane. I don't care about Z-moves at all, but megas at least were upgrades that otherwise forgotten older 'mon needed. Cutting out something like that doesn't sit well with me at all.

It's kind of understandable, since they can just pull the assets for all 151 original Pokemon from Let's Go. It also would have been confusing to not be able to transfer Pokemon from one Switch game to another.

Trubbish is confirmed according to Serebii. The others there haven't been so far though. 

I agree 100% that removing Mega Evolution was dumb as hell. Dynamaxing is super dumb looking, I would much rather they had added about 30 new mega's instead. 

That's the thing though - they're straight pulling the assets for Sword/Shield from the 3DS games. The models and animations are completely unchanged for all returning Pokemon. There is absolutely no reason that older Pokemon shouldn't be in, it's not like they're making them all from scratch. Very happy that Trubbish is in though ^_^

mZuzek said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Wait until you see the regional dex. X/Y had over 450 Poke'mon in the game (Not counting Megas). There's a lot of Poke'mon that I'm sure nobody will miss like Zigazoon, a lot of UU Poke's, and Legendaries. Then there's all the Pokemon that fill the same role as Poke'mon from previous gens. Like Conkledurr and Machamp.

Also, there's no reason why they can't slowly patch the rest in over a year.

Actually, there is a reason they can't do that. It's called Game Freak. They never patched their games for parity before... OR/AS introduce a couple new features and forms, oh well I guess X/Y has to be incompatible. US/UM introduces a few new Pokémon, oh well S/M is now incompatible. They don't do patching because they want you to spend money on their half-assed games.

Also, it doesn't matter whether the Pokémon that are missing are memorable or not. First, because, as this thread has already shown, every single Pokémon has those who care about it. And second, because completing the National Pokédex is a big deal for Pokémon players, it's always been the main thing about the franchise, and that's getting removed for no good reason other than laziness. It's one thing to require players to bring Pokémon over from different games to complete the Pokédex, it's another to have those Pokémon missing entirely.

Seriously. I hate Garchomp, think it's one of the worst Pokemon along with the Ultra Beasts, but do I think they should be removed? No! There are plenty of people that love them as much as I do Quagsire and Whiscash, why should their joy be removed? Not everybody likes Charizard and Pikachu, it's a kick in the guts to those whose favourites are being cut, no matter which or how many make the cut.