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Pokemon Sword/Shield will not feature all Pokemon - Just the ones in the regional dex.

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Does this affect your decision to get the game?

No, still hyped. 24 40.00%
 
Yes, hype gone, not buying. 9 15.00%
 
Eh, I don't like this but will wait and see. 10 16.67%
 
Eh, I hate this, but will get it anyway. 13 21.67%
 
Wasn't getting it from the start. 4 6.67%
 
Total:60

You read that right. Not only is there no National Dex in S/S, you will not be able to transfer Pokemon not in the Galar Pokedex forward to S/S, they will not be usable.

"During Nintendo’s Treehouse Live presentation at E3, Nintendo shared an important detail about transferring Pokémon to Pokémon Sword and Shield. Not all Pokémon — and there are more than 800 species at this point — in your collection can be transferred into this year’s Switch sequel.

The recently announced Pokémon Home cloud app, as well as the Pokémon Bank service, let players keep a collection of Pokémon that they could transfer between games and titles. This made the experience of catching ’em all a little less ephemeral, as you had a way to put your library of Pokémon buddies on your mobile device.

However, the new Pokémon Sword and Shield games won’t be able to fully benefit from your collection. You’ll be able to share transfer Sword and Shield Pokémon back and forth withPokémon Home next year, but importing Pokémon will work differently; only Pokémon in the Galar region Pokédex will be able to be imported from Pokémon Home into Sword and Shield.

Producer Junichi Masuda said at E3 that the developers spent “a lot of time thinking about what the best way to move forward was” as the Pokédex grows and grows.

He noted that since there are now “well over 800 Pokémon species in the game”, and the Switch’s hardware quality made it easier for them all to be unique and expressive, the designers had to balance importing as many Pokémon as possible and updating them to these high standards while still keeping development deadlines. The team discussed many options, but finally decided to only allow Galar region Pokémon to be imported.

Gameplay balance was another concern; with so many Pokémon and potential combos, opening the roster up to the full 800-plus list of Pokémon could prove problematic for competitive play.

Masuda said that the team spent a lot of time making sure that there would be a good mix of Pokémon in the Galar region. Not only are we seeing some familiar faces in Sword and Shield, but there are also lots of new friends, like the perfect sheep Pokémon Wooloo.

Masuda didn’t say how many Pokémon will appear in the Galar region Pokédex, but it sounds like everything from the Pokémon Let’s Go games (the original 151 and Alolan region variations) will appear in Pokémon Sword and Shield."
From Polygon and Serebii

This is easily one of the worst decisions Game Freak has ever made. They made the models on the 3DS HD so that they were future proof and they are using them for SS, yet they're too lazy to even add the ability to transfer them into the game and make up a bunch of bullshit about 'balancing'. If your favourite doesn't make the dex, you're shit out of luck, you can't even bring it over to use in the post-game or for breeding. As far as these games are concerned, they may as well not exist.

I really don't fucking understand why GF has to keep shooting themselves in the foot, development needs to be taken off them, they have no fucking idea what they're doing.

Pokemon - Gotta' Catch some of 'em, I guess.

Last edited by RingoGaSuki - on 11 June 2019

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Kind of understandable the difficulties they face: the list of Pokemon just keeps growing. Still hoping some of the more popular Pokemon can be transferred.

Do not deny me my Gardevoir!



Wow. What the fuck, Game Freak. They never fail to impress, do they?

I'd understand it if they were doing what any half-decent developer would do when bringing their series to an HD console, which is to remake all your assets. But no. All Pokémon models in this game, except for the new generation ones, are being reused from older games - most of them dating all the way back to 2013's X & Y. And X & Y had them all available, of course. A 3DS game, in 2013.

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Huge mistake by Gamefreak imo. I know it would have been alot of work to add new character models for all 800+ pokemon (possibly 900+ including the new Galar Pokemon), but only doing maybe 40% of them (if we're lucky) is pretty lame. Hopefully they remedy this with the 3rd version (Arrow?) and make it possible to get all Pokemon in that game.



shikamaru317 said:

Huge mistake by Gamefreak imo. I know it would have been alot of work to add new character models for all 800+ pokemon (possibly 900+ including the new Galar Pokemon), but only doing maybe 40% of them (if we're lucky) is pretty lame.

The models aren't new, though.



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Yeah, this predictably isn't going down well with the core fans. Yeah the millions and millions of casual fans will roll with it, but this could quickly become a very loud complaint.

The most foolish part of how this was announced was not telling us how many that entails or giving any assurances on what kind of selection we are getting. That will determine a lot of how much this stings. And it would be wise to merge in the National Dex via patch es and updates later on.



Nuvendil said:
And it would be wise to merge in the National Dex via patches and updates later on.

"Patches"? That's a weird way to spell "$60 dollar third version".



Nuvendil said:
Yeah, this predictably isn't going down well with the core fans. Yeah the millions and millions of casual fans will roll with it, but this could quickly become a very loud complaint.

The most foolish part of how this was announced was not telling us how many that entails or giving any assurances on what kind of selection we are getting. That will determine a lot of how much this stings. And it would be wise to merge in the National Dex via patch es and updates later on.

Yeah, I agree, they should have at least announced the size of the Galar Pokedex today. Thankfully, based on the Pokemon we have seen so far in trailers and today's gameplay demo (and the evolutionary lines of those Pokemon), we already know that there will be at least 159 Pokemon in the Galar Pokedex. Hopefully we're looking at at least 300 in the Galar Pokedex when all is said and done, and 400 would be even better. 



Excuses. All of that.

They think the models for the Pokemon are of high standards? Are they on drugs? Even Compile Heart has surpassed them in quality 3D models with 3% of the budget.



Mega Evolutions and Z-moves were also removed.

Now, there's a side of me that wants to be fine with that information - if every generation is gonna have its own gimmick, I'd rather they keep their gimmicks to themselves instead of going on forever -, but really, not having Mega Evolutions is never a good thing.