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It has too many games I love, and I spend so much time playing because I can play anywhere, so I am wasting my life. If it was a Playstation, I would spend less time playing, because is only on TV in my living room at home, and the games are less interesting for my personal taste, I would play a lot less, and my life would be more productive. So, is not ideal as main console because it steal my life more than any other. xD



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Reading through this thread I realize the main distinction for people is really how they feel about Western AAA games.  Some people see these games as the main draw in getting a console and others do not.  I would bet the OP doesn't really care about Western AAA games too much.

Some people point to other aspects like cutting edge graphics or online multiplayer, but really these are aspects associated more with Western AAA games.  Online shooters are mostly Western, and the games that go for high end graphics are like 80%+ Western games.  

So really the distinction is, "What are my favorite games?"  If your favorite games include few AAA Western games, then having Switch as your primary/sole console makes a lot of sense.  But if you play a lot of Western AAA games, then you may scratch your head at why people are talking up the Switch so much.



I think its fine, but i thought the wii u was fine as a lone console... it really had a bunch of great games. Will get a ps4 eventually for mh world but in no rush.



If Switch was my only gaming device, I simply wouldn't do much gaming. Many of the games I play or interested in playing are not on Switch.

I could have easily bought a Switch during Black Friday, but I purchased a Xbox One X instead. That means I rather make my Xbox One games play better versus having access to the Switch library.



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dharh said:
Not in my house. Not enough RPGs, For me to consider getting a console, it needs at least 10 good RPGs, and I would expect 20 lifetime.

I assume you are speaking of western RPGs, because as far as JRPGs go, the Switch is becoming a haven for them.  It is dominating japan after all.

BasilZero said:

Weaker Third Party support

No Achievement/Trophy system

Lower visuals/frame rate

Cant record gameplay footage

Smaller online fanbase

 

For me - The Switch will be only for Nintendo's first party games, cant think of any multiplat third party title to get for it.

 

 

Cant think of any reason to get a multiplat third party title on it other than for the sake of portability.

 

I'd otherwise rather get multiplat third party titles on PS4/PC.

Well you see, the portability is the key.  Just because it is not that important to you does not mean that it is not huge for other people.  As pointed out before, I get nearly double the gaming time with my Switch than I do my PS4 Pro.  For me, the Switch is the obvious winner because actually playing the games comes before all the bells and whistles.

 

I get games that are not on Switch on my PS4, and the rest on Switch for that reason.  This makes Switch my primary console, and there are more people in this boat than many realize.  I have seen at 10 or so people get a Switch at my workplace for this reason in fact.

 

Also you do not NEED all big AAA releases, in fact one could say that most of them are overrated these days anyway.  I mean look at Fallout 76 and Battlefield 5 for example.  Also games like Ys VIII, Wolfenstein 2, Dragonball FighterZ, and Valkeria Chronicles 4 are no less viable as options than any other game, and they are on Switch.

 

Heck I have RDR2, but I am focusing on Wolfenstein right now because playing on my PS4 does not give me the allotted time I desire to play games right now.  There is far more to it than just library size alone, especially considering that the Switch has a good one in its own right.

 

Not to mention they have their own exclusive experiences as well, some of the best in fact.  So with that in mind, you really lose nothing by having Switch as a primary and if portability is a factor, you gain so much more.  What is the use of the bigher library if there are equally good games on Switch that I will actually have time to play, if I will never get to most of what the other console offers?

 

So you see, it varies person to person and the reality of it is that the Switch is no less viable than any of the other 3 platforms.  You can admit to this fact without it being your own choice as well, your situation does not equal everyone else's afterall.

Mr Puggsly said:

If Switch was my only gaming device, I simply wouldn't do much gaming. Many of the games I play or interested in playing are not on Switch.

I could have easily bought a Switch during Black Friday, but I purchased a Xbox One X instead. That means I rather make my Xbox One games play better versus having access to the Switch library.

For many it is the opposite.  The X1 has nothing I want that is not also on PS4 or Switch, so currently it is nothing more than a netflix machine for me.

 

See my reply above for my points on Switch though, because that sums up why the Switch is no less a primary than the others.



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Shiken said: 
Mr Puggsly said:

If Switch was my only gaming device, I simply wouldn't do much gaming. Many of the games I play or interested in playing are not on Switch.

I could have easily bought a Switch during Black Friday, but I purchased a Xbox One X instead. That means I rather make my Xbox One games play better versus having access to the Switch library.

For many it is the opposite.  The X1 has nothing I want that is not also on PS4 or Switch, so currently it is nothing more than a netflix machine for me.

 

See my reply above for my points on Switch though, because that sums up why the Switch is no less a primary than the others.

Yeah, but you have a PS4, which means you already have access to much of the X1 library. But having a X1 gives access to a huge catalog of Xbox and 360 games which is a notable feature. If PS4 and Switch did that then it would be a notable feature as well. I mean one moment we say having access to old games doesn't matter, but then people boast about PS Now, the sales of NES/SNES mini and the PlayStation Classic was hyped before we knew it sucked.

Any who, it really is a matter of personal taste. But for most people on this forum, having Switch as your primary or only console is a joke.



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Ok, so far I have seen no valid argument over why the Switch cannot be a viable primary console option in general, only subject reasons that only account for their own needs.

 

"lack of major 3rd party games"

 

Most of these games are only big in advertising, as it does not rquate to quality.  How many times have major releases disappointed this gen?  Also there are plenty of other 3rd party games that are just as good on Switch, just without the advertising that the "bigger" games have.  I have listed a few of them countless times already.

 

Point is, there will always be something to play.

 

"I do not care about portability"

 

Thats nice, but just as many people do.  Myself for example is a result of it giving me double the playtime that my PS4 offers.  This allows me to play more games on Switch, making my PS4 Pro my SIDE console.

 

The bigger library is a pointless thing FOR ME if I will play and finish more games on the Switch anyway.  Time to play is everything, and the Switch has a solid library overall so far in of itself.  There was never a time I felt like I had nothing to play, and even picked up games that I had previously skipped on PS4 due to those very time constraints.  Being on Switch made that possible for me.

 

"online sucks"

 

Yes it does.  Not to a point where it makes the system unviable, but yes it does suck.  No argument from me on this.

 

"Too many ports"

 

The Switch is less than 2 years old, and it already has more exclusive games in quality and quantity than the PS4 and X1 did during their entire first 2 years.  Furthermore most of the games during that period were cross gen, offering little incentive to buy a PS4 at the time (remember the PS4 has no gamez memes?).

 

Did this make the PS4 any less viable if a main console for you, or does that only apply to Nintendo devices?  Hell the PS4 was even a jump from free online on PS3 to paid online on PS4.  The free games sucked as well, only recently have they hotten better.  At least Nintendo gives us ports of current gen games that can be taken on the go, alongside great exclusives out of the gate.

 

"No games that cater to me"

 

Can be made for any console.  Switch has more playformers and Metroidvania games, and will likely have the most Japanese support moving forward.  Not to mention the games that support local multiplayer in comparison to the ither two.  One of the most subjective points yet.

 

"less visual performance"

 

That is a trade off for portability.  Do not like it and do not like Nintendo games, go with PS4 or X1.  This makes it no less viable for others though.

 

These are the main points I am seeing and the only thing they do is make you look closed off in your own little bubble.  Your needs are not the needs of everyone, and so far no evidence has been given to why the PS4 or X1 are more viable as a main console than the Switch.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Shiken said: 

For many it is the opposite.  The X1 has nothing I want that is not also on PS4 or Switch, so currently it is nothing more than a netflix machine for me.

 

See my reply above for my points on Switch though, because that sums up why the Switch is no less a primary than the others.

Yeah, but you have a PS4, which means you already have access to much of the X1 library. But having a X1 gives access to a huge catalog of Xbox and 360 games which is a notable feature. If PS4 and Switch did that then it would be a notable feature as well. I mean one moment we say having access to old games doesn't matter, but then people boast about PS Now, the sales of NES/SNES mini and the PlayStation Classic was hyped before we knew it sucked.

Any who, it really is a matter of personal taste. But for most people on this forum, having Switch as your primary or only console is a joke.

I have already seen a good number of people in other threads showing the contrary, and a few of them within this very thread as well.  I mean the fact that some 3rd party games that come out on Switch seem to outsell X1 versions is evidence that portability matters to many.

 

Fact is, even the majority of an online forum does not come close to accounting for the general public.  To think otherwise is lying to yourself.

 

All 3 are valid primary consoles based on the needs of a gamer, and as it stands, I see no evidence of the contrary.  Only arbitrary arguments made by people who wish it to be unviable, or thise who refuse to look outside of their own personal needs.

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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Reading through this thread I realize the main distinction for people is really how they feel about Western AAA games.  Some people see these games as the main draw in getting a console and others do not.  I would bet the OP doesn't really care about Western AAA games too much.

Some people point to other aspects like cutting edge graphics or online multiplayer, but really these are aspects associated more with Western AAA games.  Online shooters are mostly Western, and the games that go for high end graphics are like 80%+ Western games.  

So really the distinction is, "What are my favorite games?"  If your favorite games include few AAA Western games, then having Switch as your primary/sole console makes a lot of sense.  But if you play a lot of Western AAA games, then you may scratch your head at why people are talking up the Switch so much.

No I like western games, that is why my PS4 Pro is a side console.  I even bought DOOM, Wolfenstein 2, Skyrim, and have gotten invested into Warframe on Switch.  But yes it is a major distraction to many on this thread, and can play a major factor in the decision making process.

 

For sure the Switch will have less western games, but the ones it does get I buy for Switch due to portability above anything else.  The flexibility is the primary selling point outside of exclusive games.  Without it, the entire argument falls flat.



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Shiken said:

Ok, so far I have seen no valid argument over why the Switch cannot be a viable primary console option in general, only subject reasons that only account for their own needs.

"lack of major 3rd party games"

Most of these games are only big in advertising, as it does not rquate to quality.  How many times have major releases disappointed this gen?  Also there are plenty of other 3rd party games that are just as good on Switch, just without the advertising that the "bigger" games have.  I have listed a few of them countless times already.

Point is, there will always be something to play.

"I do not care about portability"

Thats nice, but just as many people do.  Myself for example is a result of it giving me double the playtime that my PS4 offers.  This allows me to play more games on Switch, making my PS4 Pro my SIDE console.

The bigger library is a pointless thing FOR ME if I will play and finish more games on the Switch anyway.  Time to play is everything, and the Switch has a solid library overall so far in of itself.  There was never a time I felt like I had nothing to play, and even picked up games that I had previously skipped on PS4 due to those very time constraints.  Being on Switch made that possible for me.

"online sucks"

Yes it does.  Not to a point where it makes the system unviable, but yes it does suck.  No argument from me on this.

"Too many ports"

The Switch is less than 2 years old, and it already has more exclusive games in quality and quantity than the PS4 and X1 did during their entire first 2 years.  Furthermore most of the games during that period were cross gen, offering little incentive to buy a PS4 at the time (remember the PS4 has no gamez memes?).

Did this make the PS4 any less viable if a main console for you, or does that only apply to Nintendo devices?  Hell the PS4 was even a jump from free online on PS3 to paid online on PS4.  The free games sucked as well, only recently have they hotten better.  At least Nintendo gives us ports of current gen games that can be taken on the go, alongside great exclusives out of the gate.

"No games that cater to me"

Can be made for any console.  Switch has more playformers and Metroidvania games, and will likely have the most Japanese support moving forward.  Not to mention the games that support local multiplayer in comparison to the ither two.  One of the most subjective points yet.

"less visual performance"

That is a trade off for portability.  Do not like it and do not like Nintendo games, go with PS4 or X1.  This makes it no less viable for others though

These are the main points I am seeing and the only thing they do is make you look closed off in your own little bubble.  Your needs are not the needs of everyone, and so far no evidence has been given to why the PS4 or X1 are more viable as a main console than the Switch.

With that logic every console can possibly be a main console..

What console can't be a viable primary console in your eyes?