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Mcube said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep. For me HR, B2S and probably Detroit is between 80-90 game perhaps even higher. I really enjoyed the first 2.

Heavy rain is a good game but I think Beyond two souls is still one of the dumbest games I´ve ever played. Just cant get over it it feels like he just made everything up as he went on. Heavy rain is good and Indigo Prophecy is pretty fun aswell. 

I didn't find it dumb, but it done it's job on what it was supposed to do, so no reason for a low score as well.

yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

Seems like you ignored your own point on how all reviewers are professional.

And sorry to burst your bubble, but games should be evaluated on what they try to accomplish and not on what you would like them to be. 

And seems like the 2 reviewers that gave GT5 40 and 50 got decomissioned.

But sure, a 40 on a 80 average is impossible to be a troll.

That's what happen if you can't maintain professionalism you get decommissioned. 

I'm not saying they are all professional most of the review writers are young college kids with very little experience.... but the Metascore make their review irrelevant. 

Going back to Detroit: Become Human of the 84 reviews most are from credible source and websites. If someone did not enjoy the game and use a 5 point scale .... 2/5 (40%) isn't trolling it's just a negative review.   Reviewer backed up his score with an article that explain why he din't like it. 80 average isn't there because all reviews should be 80%, it's what the game got from compiling all review score. 

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Mandalore76 said:
DonFerrari said:

So you admit to be fishing using a strawman argument? Where did anyone besides you said any score that is far from average (that for you if 25 or 40 is the same, then 25 to 10 is the same and 10 to 0 as well right?) is troll (you are also the only one talking about fake review). You are the one changing definitions non-stop to try and make an argument stick, and have failed miserably at it.

When you read the review for GTS and see how it is fake you come and use it. Because people here have read the Detroit and show why it's ridiculous.

Are we discussing Angry Joe? Haven't seem his review cited here. And still Detroit wouldn't dwell on below average (also ignore that gaming average have been sitting about 70 as also show to you in other threads).

No problem you watching Jim, just curious why you would watch negative reviews on a game you don't care on a platform you never play. Will you list the PS games you played yet?

He already told you.  There are plenty of people who watch a reviewer's videos (myself included, which is why I'm throwing my 2 cents in here) regardless of what they are playing, because they happen to like the reviewer.  I watched the exact same video, and I have no problem telling you that I don't have a PS4.  I didn't type "find negative reviews on Detroit: Become Human" into the YouTube search bar.  I typed "Jim Sterling", because I happen to like listening to his videos while on lunch break or driving home from work.  If you like the particular reviewer, the content doesn't have to be something you actually intend to play, or sought out, or even agree with for that matter.

Well I am someone that even if I like the person or format of what they do just watch if the content itself holds some interest to me. Otherwise it bores me.

I 'won't go any further because you probably missed the mod warning. Anyway I have no issue with you not having a PS4 or playing its exclusives (or even being in a thread about one), as long as you are clear on it everything is fine.



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hinch said:

Played through the game in a week and I'd say 79 is a pretty fair meta score. I'd personally give it the game a 7. And like other story driven games, I'm not keen to replay it anytime soon - hence why I traded it in.

[MINI REVIEW] My verdict.. better than Beyond, by far but not quite as good as Heavy Rain. Which is a bit of a disappointment as I am fascinated at the premise and setting of the game. Detroit does have a good cast with some of my favourite actors in it; Clancy Brown, Lance Henriksen, anyone? And some of the best looking graphics I've seen in-game.

Negatives, the game has clunky controls and awkward QTE's that have you wrestling around with your controller like a madman/woman else your characters suffer an ill fate should you miss to hit the right command. Story despite a promising start falls flat and a lot of cringy dialogue and text.

It does have some excellent moments in the game that pull on your heartstrings and a lot of options for replayability. Sadly, it is let down by the story, dull characters (barring Connor, Hank and a few others) and some poor writing.

I can't agree at all regarding the controls or story in relation to Heavy Rain. That game's controls were far clunkier, QTEs were much more confusing (and redundant) at times, and the storytelling isn't anywhere near as strong as Detroit's. 

Characters were appropriate for the setting and much better acted than Heavy Rain's, as well. 



                                                                                                                                            

DonFerrari said:

yvanjean said:

That's what happen if you can't maintain professionalism you get decommissioned. 

I'm not saying they are all professional most of the review writers are young college kids with very little experience.... but the Metascore make their review irrelevant. 

Going back to Detroit: Become Human of the 84 reviews most are from credible source and websites. If someone did not enjoy the game and use a 5 point scale .... 2/5 (40%) isn't trolling it's just a negative review.   Reviewer backed up his score with an article that explain why he din't like it. 80 average isn't there because all reviews should be 80%, it's what the game got from compiling all review score. 

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Only a moron would give zero to a game that is not completely broken ... but Metacritic has often been criticized for taking 5 point scales review at face value. 

5 point scale which reviews games based on 5- Strongly Satisfied 4 - Somewhat satisfied 3- Neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied 2 - Somewhat Dissatisfied 1- Strongly Dissatisfied result in score of 20% and 40%. The reviewer are not really bashing the game has unplayable but rather their scale is different then the rest of the industry.  But, if people actually read review instead of simply looking at the score they would understand what is going on. 

If you remove both 40% review the metascore would only go up by 0.96 ((100 / 85 reviews * 80%) - (100 / 87 reviews *40%)) X 2 reviews.

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I don't really care either way but I'd caution against trusting Jim Sterling wholeheartedly regarding this game.

I haven't watched or read any of his stuff in years but, back when I used to call Destructoid home, Sterling seemed to have some kind of vendetta against David Cage. I'm not talking about just bashing his work in reviews, I'm talking about consistently taking shots at him in unrelated articles and editorials. Not simple criticism, either, but full-on juvenile insults. Honestly, I thought it was unprofessional and petty even by Jim Sterling's meager standards.

He did this with a few others well-known developers, as well, probably as a way to garner attention, though I remember him going after Cage especially.

Granted, that's been years ago, but I can't imagine that kind of vitriol dissipating completely.



Holy shit people. I've dived deep on this game. Just finished my 3rd full playthrough and one left for the platinum. I've also watched streamers play on twitch and some Youtube compilations. The level of choice is insanely deep, my first and second playthroughs were generally the same scenes with skipping some and a few extras added in but different outcomes of the same scenes,barely the same dialouge. My third playthrough for the kill connor at every opp trophy was very nearly a completely different story with the difference in scenes. I killed off marcus as early as I could and got Kara trapped in Zaktlos and the game continued on with more scenes added even post credits. I've still seen streamers get different scenes and outcomes/dialouge than me and even though i've a good grasp on the scope of the game I feel like there could be loads I'm missing. I'm starting my 4th playthrough now to get the happy ending where everyone including John, simon, jerry and all survive and i'm pretty pumped to do so all things considered. 

I'm upping this from an 8 to a 9 personally. I think reviewers should really have multiple playthroughs on this if they really want to be taken seriously. This thing is genre defining even with the flaws, I'd hope Super massive games try and top this with their next title and then QD again try to one up them. Tell tale are pretty much redundant at this point. 

Cage done did something special. Hoping for a connor/hank spin off or an expansion. Just a straight foward down to earth android detective story with focus on that, all other fluff to the side.

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The plot of this game is the same recycled melodrama about robots and AI derived from I, robot novels from 1950s. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.

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CuCabeludo said:

The plot of this game is the same recycled melodrama about robots and AI derived from I, robot novels from 1950s. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.

I agree but there has been nothing that hasn't been recycled or a mishmash of the same stuff since the 70's. It's all the same stuff done differently even games like SOMA or Neir Automata are just varied versions of the same material,same goes for all movies and TV since.

The game doesn't have to say something new to be good, I believe it fell short trying to achieve to much not because it didn't try and reinvent the autonomous wheel.



 

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John2290 said:
CuCabeludo said:

The plot of this game is the same recycled melodrama about robots and AI derived from I, robot novels from 1950s. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.

I agree but there has been nothing that hasn't been recycled or a mishmash of the same stuff since the 70's. It's all the same stuff done differently even games like SOMA or Neir Automata are just varied versions of the same material,same goes for all movies and TV since.

The game doesn't have to say something new to be good, I believe it fell short trying to achieve to much not because it didn't try and reinvent the autonomous wheel.

Eh, the only thing it fell short of was a 90+ Meta (which is totally fine - Until Dawn was nowhere near as ambitious and is a beloved game, sitting at a 79 Meta). Most people who document playing it are loving it. Seems to be doing exactly what it set out to do, on top of, selling quite well (you'll need to understand French :P).



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

I agree but there has been nothing that hasn't been recycled or a mishmash of the same stuff since the 70's. It's all the same stuff done differently even games like SOMA or Neir Automata are just varied versions of the same material,same goes for all movies and TV since.

The game doesn't have to say something new to be good, I believe it fell short trying to achieve to much not because it didn't try and reinvent the autonomous wheel.

Eh, the only thing it fell short of was a 90+ Meta (which is totally fine - Until Dawn was nowhere near as ambitious and is a beloved game, sitting at a 79 Meta). Most people who document playing it are loving it. Seems to be doing exactly what it set out to do, on top of, selling quite well (you'll need to understand French :P).

Thanks for that link. David gives much better interviews in his native language. His personality comes off as much more modest in french than in english, where he tries his best to say the right words.



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CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

I agree but there has been nothing that hasn't been recycled or a mishmash of the same stuff since the 70's. It's all the same stuff done differently even games like SOMA or Neir Automata are just varied versions of the same material,same goes for all movies and TV since.

The game doesn't have to say something new to be good, I believe it fell short trying to achieve to much not because it didn't try and reinvent the autonomous wheel.

Eh, the only thing it fell short of was a 90+ Meta (which is totally fine - Until Dawn was nowhere near as ambitious and is a beloved game, sitting at a 79 Meta). Most people who document playing it are loving it. Seems to be doing exactly what it set out to do, on top of, selling quite well (you'll need to understand French :P).

I mean it fell short personally for me in the storytelling. I'd have prefered a more down to earth story along the lines of connor and hanks story which is by far the best part of the game,in my opinion. 

And agreed, The meta doesn't matter for this genre and it does seem as if people who actually bought it are loving it, people who haven't are hating...par for the course. The reaction online is positive as a whole,Steamers and their audience are having mad fun, that's for sure. I don't usually watch streams but this game has been by far the most fun to watch and participate in, some brilliant gut churning laughs from it too but in a good way.

As for sales I'd reckon it'll be a long and steady road, I doubt it'll break any records coming out the gate at full price but once those sales start hitting it'll keep steady legs. I'm sure it'll be deal of the month before the summer ends.



 

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